The Lunar Way with Maureen Webb

0:00 Hello, I'm Kim and I'm Laura. And we're here today with Maureen Webb. And she is like tarot astrology Human Design expert. We love her. She's she's like become she's become one of my favorite reader personalities. So we had to bring her on today to talk about some of the things that she's been up to. And hi Maureen. Hi Maureen. Hello. Hello. I'm trying not to laugh, but oh my gosh. Did you love that intro? We love you. If you guys could see me, I'm pretty sure I'm lushing right now. So cute. Oh, I can see in my eyes anyway. I could see you. I'm sure. Oh my gosh. So Maureen is in Sedona, Arizona, one of our favorite places. And I'm really interested to know Maureen about a little bit about your story. So can you tell me first like where did this all come from? How did you how did you like decide that you wanted to be working in the esoteric arts?

1:04 Oh my gosh, that's such a beautiful question. Number one. And I don't think I had a choice. Oh yeah. To be honest with you, I really truly feel that like this is what I was born to do. And I lovingly joke that I have been woo since the womb. As soon as I pop that out, I'm pretty sure I asked the doctor, what's your big three? I need to know your sun, moon, and rise. To me, it just it just is. Absolutely. It just is. So I wish I had a better answer. No, I mean, so the way that sounds like to me, like it sounds like you've always been interested, do you have, do you have like, do you, is there a time in your life where you could pinpoint where you're like, oh, I just have to learn more about this? Or did something happen to you to bring into your awareness that this is what you want to do? I can give you two different uh answers. Yeah. So I can remember when I, so I was raised in the 80s. I am born in 1979.

2:12 My mom was a single parent and there were weekends that my mom didn't have anybody to like watch me and my brother. So there would be times where my mom would literally drop us off at the library, boat shopping, and then come and pick us up because again, it was the 1980s. I know this sounds wild. No, I don't know. No, that was okay back then. I like your mom already. Yeah, I was born in 1979. So I totally get it. And I clearly remember walking into the library and like immediately going to the new age books. Like in the adult section, like I'm like 10 years old, nine, 10 years old, and I'm just automatically drawn to all of the astrology.

3:01 And it was like remembering. I was, I was, I just became obsessed. In high school, I would go to the library and read astrology. Wow. I love it. I love it. The more recent happened in 2020, when my mother unexpectedly passed away. And then five months later, my dog died. And I, it was, it was, it was my phoenix rising from the ashes moment.

3:48 Like the universe. Yeah. And one thing I have to say, I know that you guys know, but the listeners might not. Before I moved to Sedona, I was born and raised in Chicago. And I was a police officer for 16 years. After 2020, it just part of my life was over. I remember telling people when, you know, like when you're out on the street and people don't like you, and they will say terrible things to you. If I had a dollar for every time somebody told me that they were going to take my badge because they didn't like what I said, you know, I'd be a millionaire. Yeah. Wow. I used to tell people, I used to tell people, you can take whatever you want from me. As long as I have my mom and my dog, I am fine. And then 2020 was like, hold my beer.

4:48 We're just going to take everything. It just, I had, I had never, I'd never felt that kind of pain before. And it broke me. And it was, you know, Maureen version 2.0. And now that, you know, my mother had passed, I was no longer beholden to Chicago. I was her primary caregiver. And later on in 2022, when the city of Chicago sent me correspondence and refused my religious exemption for the vaccination and told me they were going to fire me that I didn't get vaccinated. I literally heard a voice in my head that told me it is time to go to Sedona.

5:39 And so that's what I did. Clear as day, it's time to go to Sedona. And sure as shit, like I put my house up for sale. It sold within two or three months. I found a place in Sedona proper. And I was retired on August 15th of 2022. And my dogs and I were in Sedona on August 21st. And it is, I've lived in, I've been here ever since. That's amazing. I love it. And I love that 2022 was so big for so many again. Oh yeah. And those years. And to listen to that voice, that, that quiet voice in your head, most people don't, they either don't want to listen to it or they just ignore it because it's too hard.

6:32 What's being offered is a hard thing to do. So kudos to you for listening. And we know that very well, so we can totally respect that. And we know how much courage it takes to say, Hey, what, what we want from life is way more important than what everybody else wants for us. And I can't imagine you, well, I can imagine you as a cop, but it's almost like it would have to be like your alter ego. I was going to say the exact same words. Yeah, like this is Maureen's tough alter ego, cop ego. Yeah, because I, I can't imagine being an empath, a highly sensitive person, and being in that line of work and trying to absorb all that stuff all day long. Gosh. Kudos to you girl.

7:19 Oh man, another, yeah, another credit in your direction, holy. Did you ever like have intuition? Like when you're working as a cop, like you must, you must have used your intuition. Yeah. And I didn't realize that that was, that's what I was doing. I was, I was the cop on the beat that every other cop knew had dog treats, right? Like I was, I was, I was the dog police, right? I also had cat treats, but you know dogs, I just, I love, I love my dog. Yeah. Yeah. Like I, it just, it was so wild to me. Like now I can reflect on it and see how much my intuition probably saved my life, if I'm going to be completely honest with you. Like there were, I'd, you know, I was involved in a shooting that the detectives literally said if I wasn't wearing my, if I were wearing my work boots instead of my gym shoes that day, I would have, I'd be gone. Wow. That's how close the bullet whizzed past my head. Right.

8:28 But for some reason I put gym shoes on that day, right? Like I, yeah. You knew you had to run that day. There's some running. Wow. Yeah. That's a thing like we don't understand how much our intuition guides us and leads us and protects us. And especially when you're not wanting to be in tune with that side of you, people have lots of fear and that kind of thing. And then you look back at things later and you go, whoa, like, like I did that, you know, I did that thing. And that probably, you know, that avoided a whole bunch of trouble for me. That's super cool. So here you are, like nine, 10 years old, reading astrology books. Like, like, I just like, holy, like how did this, and now like it's snowballed into this like experience that you're in. And do you ever just look back at yourself and you go, like, is this like a different life? Like, am I elite? Am I in my second life? Because that's what me and Kim feel like all the time. Yeah. This is our second life. Yeah. You know what? I absolutely agree with that because I try to like remember things from my childhood or when I was a teenager. And it's just not

9:49 There. And I'm just like, I wonder if not so much if there was a walk in and a walk, you know, like a walk in soul, but there's no reason for me to remember that version of who I was because I'd been able to extract what I need from it. So this is me. This is still Maureen's soul. She's just elevated and realizes you don't always have to be anchored in to the negativity of your past. And you know, something else, I think that's, oops, sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, no, there's a little time. We got a slight delay. That's yeah. The thing I love about all this is that, you know, we, we do have second lives because like the same as what you just said, I don't remember a lot of things from my childhood. And the things I remember aren't things you want to remember, right? So I love the fact that you said that at that young of an age, you were able to go to the library because some people would judge your mother and say, like the babysitter was a library, but here's the beauty of us knowing and trusting what our path is. What an incredible opportunity that was for you because you had a lot of freedom as a

11:11 Very young child, right? So somebody can look at that as a negative. But for me, and I understand that a lot of this, a lot of being an awakened aware soul and developing in consciousness is we really, this is like a, some kind of a game and you level up and there's bonus points and, you know, but there's a lot of hard stuff we got to go through before we get to those points. And I say it all the time to Laura. Oh man, I feel like somebody just ran me over. I know I'm leveling up. And when you do, then consciousness opens and downloads more information for us to move forward, right? So how incredible to me it is to hear your story and to see that you are given this opportunity to go to the library where knowledge is free and you had the opportunity to do that. That's pretty to me. I just feel like that's an incredible gift.

12:04 So and I know too, like, when souls come into this life, sometimes they come in a very solitary existence. So whether you don't have a lot of family or whether in your case, your mom's single mom, she has to work all the time. So you don't have her around all the time. Or maybe our, we come into a life where our family literally abandons us, you know, and that could happen through many ways and not just, you know, the literal ways like adoption and those things, but also like emotionally abandoned us and things like that. But souls that come here to live more independently away from the tribe, they come because they're such expansive souls and they need freedom to grow. And you can't grow as fast if you're in a tribe, because following tribal law means that you have to move very slowly in your evolution, in your growth, in your beliefs. And so learning and changing rapidly means sometimes you have to do that by yourself. And so souls come here and, you know, they have to get over the trauma of being abandoned and not feeling like they belong in order to get to the place where they actually came here to be. And so to continue to follow the path takes a lot of courage. And I know

13:22 From our experience, I know how much it's not just courage, it's commitment every day to make the decision to continue to keep going. Because this path is not an easy one. But I'm interested because I know you said, when I was talking to you before, you had said that you started reading tarot when you were 16. Is that right? Yeah. Yes, ma'am. So this is what I'm shocked about is what inside a 16 year old just says, well, I'm going to read tarot now. Like, did you, did you start by reading friends or how did that start? I have always had such a fascination with archaeology, with digging up the truth.

14:13 Like I can remember when I was little, my mom asked me, and oh my God, I can see it in my head in, in my living room in the 80s with that terrible green carpet. The whole entire set of the Encyclopedia Britannica books, do you remember those? I remember my mother asking me, what do you want to do when you grow up, Maureen? And I remember being at those Encyclopedias and telling her, I want to be an archaeologist. And she told me that I needed to find a better, a better way to make money because archaeology was a rich man's hobby. And for some reason, my mother was also a Capricorn, okay?

15:02 Capricorn's son, Virgo Moon, she was not playing. Oh, wow. Very much about safety and security, okay? But I just remember that kind of sparking a little bit of a, like rebellion in me and drawing me towards things that were mysterious. I remember looking in the really yellow pages when we actually got them delivered to our door and looking up like astrology and it made, it moved me to like a different header. And I found this St. Augustine spiritual bookstore. Holy shit, it was like I went to heaven, right? I take three buses to get there, three buses to get there as a 16-year-old, right?

15:51 And I walk in and I see these cards and I was like, what is it? And I just like, right to it. And I was like, and here we are. And ever since then, it was just this like beautiful mystery that every time I shuffle, I get to find an answer to. Right. And like a fucking cool little ball. So cool. I love your curiosity, right? Because I have that, so I so love and appreciate that because something's always pushing us, right? And I think the thing I love about astrology is I remember my daughter, like she hit this age where, you know, my daughter was like always like the perfect kid. She never stepped out of line. She was always sweet. I think she pushed her father a little bit more than me. But she always was just such a super, super kid.

16:42 And she hit this point where she had her, her, you know, started her period and her emotions started to change. And she became different. And I thought, what is happening to my daughter? And I had a good friend that was an amazing astrologist. And I always had love for it. There's something about it just always intrigued me and made sense to me. It came natural. So I did her astrology chart. And I was like, holy shit. Like here she is, you know, Sagittarius with an Aries moon. Well, every time she had her period, she was fire. She just got so upset. And no, no two kids are like so with her, I would just say, listen, I did like discipline wasn't the same for her. So I send her to her room, but then she'd stand in her doorway and be like, mom, don't be mad at me. And I was like, oh my God, this is such a sin because I'm not mad at you. I just don't know what to do with you right now. So go in your room. But but it worked for her because then I learned how to understand her emotionally. And I understand what would work for her. And that's why I fell in love with astrology because it's a tool to help us understand somebody, even though we might be struggling with how to understand them. And we once we realize there's a physical,

18:00 An emotional, I mean, Venus is about connection, like so love connection, right? And then ascended to me was always like how what somebody showed you so who you represented yourself as in front of friends and your your work environment, because you're different, we all wear different masks, right? So to me, astrology is like, yeah, there's all these different aspects of the being. So, you know, physically, and like, I know Laura is a tourist cancer, and we have a friend that is actually the total opposite. And they're massively different. So people say, well, astrology, poo poo, and all that. And I said, yeah, but what you don't understand is exactly what your, your this lunar way, I believe, is going to help people with. We're a whole, we're like a puzzle.

18:49 I feel like when we're born, where this amazing puzzle pieces, and there's loads of different pieces of our personality and aspects of being and soul connection, all these things that have to be a part of it. So the astrology, for me, I used it in my work because I had a client that was a counselor and she would send me clients and I had no idea what they were coming for, nor do I know when my clients were coming either. But I really wanted to find a better way, a quicker way to help my clients. So I had a love for astrology right off the bat. So if I did a little quick snapshot, and I always use this astrology site, and I would get their sun, their moon, Mercury and Venus, because for me, and I'm no professional, the sun is the physical self, and I'm just doing a quick snapshot here. The sun was their physical self. The moon was their emotional self. Mercury was how they learned things. So you could also see, like how having certain parents would change that. And then Venus is about love and connection and relationship.

19:53 And then I would look at their ascendant, because that's how, for me, it was what they would show people in work or in friendships, but they wouldn't be that same person in their own home. And then I would look at the earth elements, the yen and yen, the cargo mixed and mutable. And that that would, that would be something that took me five or 10 minutes, and I would look at it and go, Okay, so this client has a problem with anxiety, look at their chart, their moon is in Aries or or cancer or whatever, right? So then that would give me a tool to help them quicker. So that is why I love what you're doing. I'm so excited to have you on today. I so want to learn more about this. And, you know, it, it's just always been something I love as well. So and I love anything that helps our clients and our listeners understand themselves more and be able to present themselves in a way they didn't know before today. So I'm excited. Yay. Yay.

20:53 Oh gosh. So you're like, okay, so you're, you're a cop. How are you balancing? I retired retired. Oh, am I? Okay. In this scenario, I'm still the police. Yeah. So back, we'll just go back up a little. So when you're actually, you're still working as a cop and you're trying, are you like, I just can't get over the, like how people can balance this. And maybe you weren't like maybe you just were doing what you had to do every day. And that was enough. But were you still like practicing tarot when you were, when you were working as a cop? I was doing tarot, but I wasn't really doing it for the masses. It was kind of like, I would, I would throw it out there for people. Okay. Right. That makes sense. Hey, what do you guys think of, you know, first you start with astrology. Like, oh, what's your sign? Right. And then if somebody is like into that, I could kind of gauge. And then I would talk about the tarot. And you can tell if people are interested or not. And if somebody was, and I felt the calling I would offer. But really it was kind of undercover. I had, when we were in the locker room and I was putting on all of my gear, I was the one that had,

22:13 I had protection oil that I had made. And I would, you know, protect myself, do my little ritual. Like it was always a part of my life, but sometimes it wasn't so bright and shiny like it is now. Right. Okay. I get that. Yeah. So, so after, you know, retired from the police force, moving to Sedona, when in this like, did you find Human Design? And then I'd like to know, like a little bit more about that because to me, I know they're all like modalities, like ways of, you know, figuring things out about people. And I like the way, you know, it's like a, like it's described like Kim described as a puzzle and we put all the pieces together. But when I didn't know a lot about Human Design, and then when I was introduced to you, and I got my little report, I have to tell you honestly, I looked at it and was supremely overwhelmed and had this, oh yeah, had this really deep respect for you that you have studied this and embodied this modality because it can explain so many things. But I have to tell you the way that I do my work is I'll open up to the universal consciousness. I get information for people,

23:31 I'll give it to them. And if we wanted to take that information and cross reference it against something like Human Design, you could probably see the similarities. But for me to absorb all that information about something, I have huge respect for you for doing that. Because like, I don't, I have a hard time understanding like all of everything to do with Human Design. But that's why I'm wondering if you can explain it to the listeners. And then, you know, like, I can't explain it. So I'm just wondering, if you could just give us a little explanation and like how that all came about, how did you find Human Design? Well, it was a turbulent, turbulent love affair at the beginning. I was introduced to Human Design in 2018 by a friend of mine who knew I was like super nerdy into astrology. And she's like, oh my god, Maureen, you're gonna love this. And I was like, okay, very suspicious. Right. And I was like, I don't know about all this. So I go to the website, I type in my birth information. I see this really weird looking like human thing with centers and things are colored in and all this,

24:47 All this stuff. I was like, what is this? Like this is, I've been just astrology. So this is completely new to me. And I'm looking, okay, you're too far, okay, whatever. And then I see strategy for life, wait to respond. I was like, oh, hell no. Oh, no. For reference, I am an Aries, Sun, Mars, Mercury and part of fortune. I have a lot of fire in me. And the minute somebody tells me to wait, I was like, do you know who I am? Right? You know what? No. Maureen does not do waiting. And this is my joke is I'm not a doctor. I don't need patients. Right? Right? That is what I have said forever jokes on me, I totally do. But at that time in 2018, I was like, this is stupid. I'm not waiting for anything. No. So I just kind of let it go. And after my mother passed away, I remember waking up one morning. And in my bedroom, I had a bookcase. And it was full of all different books on all the woo. And I still had my Human Design book, even though I hadn't touched

26:07 It in two years. I remember waking up that morning and seeing it glow. Like that's the only way I can describe it. And I was like, what the heck? I don't know what this is. Again, this is, you know, I'm still not really aware of the gift that I have in a conscious way. So I'm like, okay, I don't know what this is. I'm still very depressed about my mother dying. So I remember walking up, grabbing the book and opening it up. And it was like I got I understood it. Right. I got it. Wow. And I was like, Oh, okay, I, I'm ready now. And ever since then, I have been able to see Human Design in everything. And I understand that like, the way that raw has like the source material that the man who channeled this, his name is raw. Okay, he was a five one manifestor. Manifestors are here to initiate and they usually rub people the wrong way.

27:21 You either like them or you don't like them. Right. And I remember listening to his voice in loving what he was saying, but knowing that that was just the surface. But it was there was so much more to build on. And it just made me like hungry for more. And then I found the Gene Keys, which is to me the perfect compliment to Human Design. And I was like, Oh my God, Human Design, astrology and Gene Keys. Just like you guys said, these are puzzle pieces. And from the minute I had like information on all three of them, my brain just like I see the way they blend together. Yeah.

28:12 Describe it in a better way. But it's just like, all of a sudden I intuitively knew that these three things are meant to work together. They were never meant to be separate. They were given to us at separate times, but they were always meant to be puzzle pieces for us to work, like to use them to figure ourselves out to reclaim our power. And that is like literally what has motivated me in this is this reclamation of power in the lie to for so long that we are not powerful when the exact opposite is true. We are more powerful than we can even imagine.

28:58 And so that's what I do. That's why that's why I wrap them together. Because to me, that is the trifecta that is going to bring us to a higher level of consciousness and a higher level of awareness where things are just going to be so much better. I love that. So is this like, and I think I know the answer to this, but is this the this is the basis for soul star mapping? Yes, ma'am. Yeah. So ma'am, you want to tell us a little bit about that? You know what? I, I, you know what? I love this because I don't think that you, Laura, realize how instrumental you were in this. Oh, I love that. Because so once I moved to Sedona, I knew that I had to work with these three modalities. And for a couple of years, I was trying to find my way. I got into Human Design shadow work. I did all of these things.

30:05 And late last year, I remember sitting on the couch exactly where I'm sitting right now, full disclosure with the same dog on top of me, just like it was. And I just, I hear this voice telling me it is time to get my shit together. Start building the foundation. It is go time. And I was like, Oh my God, okay, okay, okay. So I'm like hurrying up and I am trying to like put things together in my business. And as I started doing that, I started to get more clients that like tarot clients. I started getting bigger group. And as I was doing this, I started channeling. And this was something that was kind of new and a little bit scary.

30:55 And it wasn't just information, but it was other people's relatives that had passed on. And I realized that I didn't know how to work it, how to work this, whatever was going on. And I needed help. And that was just as Laura was putting together your, the psychic. Oh, the magic of mediumship. Magic of mediumship. I was like, Holy shit, this is perfect. It's a sign, fucking A. So I enrolled in that and I'm like, okay, that's cool. And I start channeling more. And there was a point with one specific person where I was channeling some really deep messages like life changing messages. And the last message that I had channeled for this particular person, I knew going to be something that was probably going to terminate our friendship.

32:01 And I knew that this message was more like this message was important. So it happened. And it's none of my business not to give somebody a message from spirit. Right. That's not my job. Right. And this is when Laura, you and I started working together. And I remember coming to you because it broke my heart. Yeah, because I had delivered, I had delivered this message and I got no response. Like not even know this is completely inaccurate. You suck. You're like, I mean, I wanted something, right? Like, just tell me something. And I remember you telling me that this was one of the biggest lessons that psychics and mediums have to learn is that it's not personal. And I like in my brain, I knew that right. But for some reason, when you told me that it like unlocked something in me. And I remember later on that day being outside in meditation and realizing how personally hearing your words in my head and realizing that I absolutely was

33:22 Taking this personally and that it was unnecessary. And I remember closing my eyes. And that was the first night that I channeled soul star mapping. That night when you helped me unlock that level like when I realized that it actually isn't personal. And I started laughing. I was like, Oh, this is funny. Okay. I get it. Like it just you just I don't it just that the thing something happened. I don't know. I closed my eyes and it is a whole new world. Yeah. So all the resistance, yeah, all the resistance is gone because you realize that you are an instrument and the universe wants to work through you. And, you know, of course, they the the collective they know that we need food and water and shelter and all these things.

34:14 So we work to to have those things. But at the same time, we're used as channels as conduits. And we they give us information so that we can help other people live their best life. But it really isn't a personal reflection on us. It's it's just that we are called. And when you had said earlier, like a nine year old wanting to read astrology books, I mean, that's a pretty strong calling. Like you you had a calling and then you had said to that you couldn't you could not do this. Like there's no way you could not do it. And that's how I feel. And I know some people do have choice. Like they're presented with this path. They could follow the path, but they have choice. They could stay in unawareness if they want to. But I I wasn't given the option. I couldn't stay in unawareness. There was things that I had to do in this life. And so I need to try to stay open to it and continue to move through it.

35:13 And that's it's a big lesson to learn that how somebody responds to a message from the universe is not your business. Right. You know, it's not your concern, which huge lesson how like how many people have to learn that I would say it's your heart. Like Maureen, you have such a big heart that you don't want to hurt people and you don't want people to be upset and you don't want to be a part of that, but you have no control over how somebody responds to your message. And so it's pretty cool that you let go of resistance and then everything just flooded in. That's awesome. That's usually the way, though, when we surrender, it's like I I'm listening to her story and I'm listening to you talk. And I I think that all three of us have been in a place where either the universe has, for lack of better words, I like to say that when you're not on your path as secure as you're meant to be at that point, then the universe will push your head through the friggin wall to get you to see what you're meant to shift and change. Right.

36:16 Because I mean, Laura had a big car accident. She was a teacher. She went to university for eight years and the universe was like hell no girl, you're going the wrong way. And we don't think that accidents are like, you know, we tell people all the universe is working for you, not against you. And we go, yeah, like hell you are, you're making things hard for me. But we're making them hard for ourselves and look at you. You were a cop and you had to go through what you went through to get to where you are. And that's what impacts the story. That's why when we speak, people have a respect for us because of what we've gone through, what we've shifted through, and what we've allowed ourselves to get to the other side of it. And, you know, I think that's so valuable. And we all use instruments and modalities. I've always been the type to say that I really don't think it matters what modality you use, whether it's Gene Keys, soul star mapping, astrology, numerology, psychic mediumship, intuitive healing, life coaching. There's multiple, there's hundreds of them out there.

37:18 But for me, it's all about your intent and what you want to do with what you know, and how you want to present it to the world and what you want your clients to get from it, what we want our listeners to hear from our stories. And that's that's one of my biggest loves why we're doing this podcast is I think that when you show people how truly real we all are and we've had hardship, we've like how hard it must have been to be somebody born, you know, and be into a family where you're all you have is your mom and your dog and then they're gone. And you're in a job that is soul sucking, but you find the courage and you trust yourself and believe in yourself enough to not only thrive or survive, but to thrive. And I just have so much respect for you. And I, I love your story. So it's pretty awesome. Thank you. Yeah.

38:10 So the, so the soul star mapping, you get the download. And like, what is this? Like, obviously, I know you can't tell us the whole thing, but just simply like what does soul star mapping look like? Soul star mapping for me is this very beautiful blend of these modalities, the Human Design, the astrology, the Gene Keys, even shadow work. It is blending, blending the best of these, like the best information from these three modalities and kind of taking what somebody needs and leaving the rest. It's saying, you know what? It's really great that you're an Aries Sun astrology, but let's go deeper. Actually in Human Design and Gene Keys, it's gate three. It's all difficulty at the beginning. In the shadow, you have a chaotic life because your gift is to innovate through your childlike innocence. That's something that all three can

39:26 Blend in where if you only have one, you're only getting part of the story. And the way that it was channeled through me, my understanding of it is this is just like puzzle pieces. We're putting them together to build the tree can navigate this lifetime on earth. We have lessons we're all going to learn. Pain is going to happen to everybody, but suffering is voluntary. Right. This to me, soul star mapping says, reclaim your power, move through the pain and live your best life. Right. Amazing. And I know that we're asking you all these questions about this project and I know you haven't launched it yet, but it to me, it's such an amazing idea and concept and the fact that you can we can now use technology that you can kind of put in some information and it'll spit out an answer for you. With these combined modalities, it really we're really in a place where all the answers are available. I felt like this for a long time anyway, but I feel like in the past, we really had to search a lot harder for answers. Like you

40:45 Literally had to go to the library, you know, there was no internet, you know. So now we have so many ways we have information at our fingertips and people are very used to gaining information that way. But how who can read three books at once and take all the information and combine it together? So here we have this, we have this, you know, program that you're putting forward that I'm so excited about because I feel like people need a little bit more help, a little bit more direction and, and they don't know where to look, you know, they don't know where to get the information, but I'm a firm believer that all the information's out there. And if you want to better your life and you want to learn about your challenges and learn how to work through them and get the best out of your life, I feel like soul star mapping is a good way to get there because you have all the, you have the three modalities combined, but you also have the element of how personal it is to each person. So it's beautiful. Also that it's growing because even when we were preparing for the podcast, we could tell that like, yes, the lunar way, we're going to talk about that, but there's more coming. And I said to Laura, uh, this feels like a podcast that we're going to, you know, we're going to kind of explore today, but then we're going to come back

42:01 And do another one because there's, there's development happening every day with this. So, so I think I'm going to ask you what, what my perception and literally all I did was I couldn't get my computer to work. So I was trying to prepare for today and I looked at it, but I have a background in astrology, not as in depth as you obviously, because I love it. I've always loved it. It's been a really good tool for me. So I, I look at this as, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but so this lunar way is like a, an app per se that you, you developed and you're really showing people with a little bit of a course to get started on how to input your information into this app that is designed specifically for you, using all this information that is the astrology they were born with and so on. So this is why this feels so incredible to me is that, you know, at first, I think people would be a little overwhelmed in the beginning, but you do have a beautiful way of like explaining to them how to do this. And really, sometimes we just have to tell people, like just slow down, look at the information. This really just is that this is an app that is specific

43:17 To you, but this is how you program it and you can't do that for everybody. So this is what the app is so great for is that you have this list, this package, it's like a little course that is, it is so they can understand what they're doing and what it's all about. But people when they first get started, their brains are like so far ahead of them that they have to just slow down, take a deep breath, listen and then input the information and you're showing them exactly how to do it. I love how you line up the birth chart and the lunar way, the lunar return return, right? So every time that that energy is going to return in that time and the significance of that. So I'm going to give it to you now. I just love what you said about how the lunar, the lunar, getting into your lunar returns is like a mini birthday every month, like discovering that you can like actually be renewed every month and start again. It's a gift because how many people are so hard on themselves about Oh, I didn't do this and I didn't do that. But if you had a little bit of a map for your lunar return, then you could really optimize the energy instead of feeling like you're always like behind the eight ball, I guess. And you know, this feeling like the lunar way, I have to say, like I'm pumping it up for Maureen because

44:36 It's available now. It's a really cool program. And we talked about it and really agreed Maureen and I, this is like astrology's best kept secret, right? Because a lot of people, like we said, don't know what a lunar return is. But when you think about it, our sun sign gets all the attention. But but our moon sign is equally impressive in our life. Sometimes more, I think. Yeah, because that's your moon sign is your that's your emotional side, right? So how many people would like to know more about their emotional side to optimize that? I think everybody would emotions are in everything. Well, and you also have to have the courage to move through emotions, which is where the shadow work comes in, in my mind, right? So you have to work on those aspects of yourself so that you can push through and come out the other side. Yeah, so we've done a whole lot of talking, but why don't you tell us about lunar way?

45:29 Oh, gosh. So the lunar way, just like full star mapping, literally a download outside, you know, doing my walking meditation, and it just hits me. You know, Maureen, you can actually create, you know, a chat box to help people with their lunar returns. And it was crazy the way it happened, because I literally created the social media and all of the emails from scratch in less than three hours. And if you know me, you know that technology and I do not get along. But for some reason, when I am doing this, it's like I'm being divinely helped and guided. It's like I was impressed with myself.

46:24 Right? Yeah. So the lunar way is based on our lunar returns. And just like you guys said, it's literally a birthday. It is your personal new moon 13 times a year. So I know that a lot of us love the new moon, love the full moon ritual, but this is collective energy. So even though all of the astrologers that we follow online will tell you, oh my god, this is the new moon to manifest everything. And if you don't have any planets that are in relation with that particular new moon, you're not going to feel shit. You're just going to be like, okay, whatever, right?

47:19 The lunar return, it's all about you. It is the moment that the moon hits the exact spot. It was the moment you were born. It's an astrological snapshot of that. So what the lunar return does is it gives you a map of the emotional focus of your month. And it doesn't, it can do it just overall. Or you can go even deeper and ask about certain aspects of your life. If you're an entrepreneur, you can ask. You can prompt the lunar way. I've done it myself. I'm about to launch this new product. Is this the best time for me to launch a new product?

48:08 The lunar way will ask for your second house cusp. You will give it to it and it will literally break it down for you. This is the best thing to do. You should do this. You can do this. You can do this. Any aspect of your life that you are curious about, you can ask the lunar way because that lunar return is your emotional snapshot for 28 days. How amazing is that? Do you imagine, to me, it's like walking into a room full of people and you know exactly what to say because somebody has given you a cheat sheet. And so you get that cheat sheet, you walk up on stage and all of a sudden it all makes sense. You know how to move and navigate each and every one of the people in your audience because you have the map. That is what your lunar return is.

49:06 Well, it's so interesting. And that's what the lunar way does. Yeah, just for fun. I started to use it today and I was putting in my information and get to the app and type in my lunar return, my host placement, and then only little aspects and put them in. And it popped out something about how this month I was going to be really focused on sharing my story with truth and through my heart. And I just said this yesterday that I needed I was going to spend time writing on my writing my book. We're waiting probably like I'll do a little bit but Kim's daughter's wedding is in a week or so. So we were trying to get through the wedding and then I said the whole winter is going to be about me writing my book and that's I want to write authentic truth from my heart. And it's so funny. Then I look up my, you know, my lunar return and it starts talking about this how I'm going to be really focused on my own emotional journey, but also that I was going to have a lot of emotional miscommunication in the next month with people in my life. So that was really helpful too because I'm like, Oh my God, I'm such an emotional being. And you know, maybe a little bit of a

50:25 Drama queen sometimes in my own personal life, not with my work, but in my I'm I always joke and say like Laura still has a lot of problems. Okay, Laura still has issues. So I know that that's a good tip for me to stay out of emotional conflict as much as possible, because if I'm going to be misunderstood, that's going to cause even bigger arguments. So we're not going there. But what a good thing just to see those two things in writing. And those are things that I've been feeling. And I know can be an issue for me when I'm when I'm not heard or seen, look out because I, I cause big scenes I do so. Inquiet, yes. So this is like a good reminder for me to not get too, not get too, I guess, intense about my feelings for the next month. Oh, that's so helpful for me. It's going to it's going to create more space for me and avoid a lot of issues. So I can appreciate like, that was just a little thing, like a literal, like just the beginning of using it. And I already have really good information from it. So I anybody, anybody that's interested in self development, or looking at how to use their energy to their benefit, I feel like the lunar

51:42 Way is so helpful. It's a whole program for your life. Like you can, you can map out every lunar return and use it to your benefit. And it's just to me, that's invaluable. I feel like that's like having, that's like having your favorite psychic in your back pocket. I was just going to say, it's like having your own magical guide over here saying, Hey, jump now. Oh, don't jump yet. Jump now. You know, I think that's so, I love it. I love it. I can't wait to see how it works more and more and what comes from it. So, so tell us a little bit more about the like, what it costs, how, how people get started, you know. Oh, sure. It's $44 for lifetime access. And I have a landing sales page that I can send you guys the link. Yes. On Instagram and Facebook, it's I am Maureen Webb, one word.

52:45 And even on TikTok, it's my first link. You can click on it. There's sales page. It's through Kajabi. You've got, yeah, there's a bunch of different port like lessons. I've got 20 minutes teaching you how to look up your lunar returns. I also include the slides from the presentation because I understand that there's some people that are visual learners and some that are more like audio. So you can just look, if you're more visual and you don't want to hear my voice, I've also included just the slides so that you can go through it at your own pace. Yeah, we did a little quick. Yep, sorry. No, no, that's okay. I also just added an additional lesson on how to prompt the lunar way. And I gave 120 different prompts.

53:43 That's the thing that blows my mind because you really have, like we literally just went over it very quickly before we were doing the podcast and I was impressed with, you know, if you know how to read an astrology chart, then you could just look at the chart and do it or you can go down the side where you have everything mapped out on the side. So I like that because some people do know the chart of astrology and for them, they'd be like, oh, yeah, tickety boo here. Here we go. And so I would recommend that you take your time with it and like, yeah, like I have to, I really relate with your message of not wanting to be patient because that is my least favorite message from spirit. When spirit tells me to be patient, I'm like, shut up. Like it's, I hate it. I hate hearing that. I'm like, I know what I want to do.

54:30 Why can't I just do it right now? But, but yeah, I really feel like this is worth taking the time like investing the time in learning. This is a map of you. Like this is, this is like your guidebook. And I like the way you describe it too as a contemplation companion or like an interactive guide because it really is you can use it to ask almost any question. And I love that you gave the prompts because that is something people kind of go blank. They're like, well, I don't know what to ask. You know, what should I be? What should I be, you know, really knowing right now? So that's amazing. And I got to say, like, that's why I'm saying take it slow. Because when I get to, I just started working through the worksheet and I got to the place where I was writing down my aspects. And you had said like, stay within three degrees. I had six, like there was six different aspects for November 9th. And I started reading them and I'm going, wow, I need to digest this, like any time to like, like take this in. So beautiful program. $44 US is a steal. Well, that's lunch out for us, right? Yeah, right. That's that's a that's like, you know, a lunch. Yeah. So I

55:49 Highly recommend the program. And Maureen, the I want to say like the way you've broken down astrology to, it was really good for me because I don't, I don't know enough about how to read charts. Like that's kind of Kim's thing. I usually if, if I need a question about astrology, I'm like, Kim, look at this and you just tell me, like I don't, I haven't taken the time to study it myself. And, and I really appreciate too, that there's a lot of calmness in this program where all we get out there in the world is we get, you know, people on YouTube screaming at you, like astrologers saying, you must pay attention to this moon or you must pay attention to this new moon right now, emergency, you know, and this, this program is like, hey, shit's going to happen.

56:43 It's okay. This is how you're going to deal with it. Like it's very much like laid out in a way like, don't panic, you know, there's an answer and here it is. And it just, it's a great way for people to move forward and actually plan things, especially if you had like big things like your buying a host or you're starting a business or like things like that that you just wanted to make sure, you know, you're on the right track. 100%. And thank you, number one, for mentioning the worksheet because I forgot to tell you, I did create a worksheet for the user so that you know exactly what you need. Like you write it all down, so that when the lunar weight does prompt you for a house cusp, you know where it is.

57:29 It's all on one sheet. And one of the things that I would love to reiterate is that when you're learning something new, it takes time. I know in today's world, we want answers right away. We want the answers to our questions yesterday. So it can be really frustrating when we actually have to sit down and take time to learn something. But what if I told you that taking 20 minutes can save you hours? Yeah. Right. Yeah. 20 minutes. 20 minutes. You could do that on this on the toilet. If you listen, you could do it, you could do it on the subway, on the bus, you know, like this is a thing, like 20 minutes of your life. It's not, it's not a big deal.

58:22 And then, like, I really appreciate the videos and the instructions because, like I said, my brain doesn't really work that way. Like I, when I'm doing readings, I just open whatever pops in there. I say it, I feel like a little bit like a robot, like that spirit's just your own puppet that they're just like controlling sometimes because I can't, I don't have, I don't have a whole lot of filters when it comes to readings. But the funny thing is, is that this takes some, this would have taken a lot of thought on your part to put this together in a way that makes sense for people that are new to this. So even though you, I know you channeled it and you got this all done in three hours flat, I think that spirit, spirit had a lot to do with that.

59:08 Absolutely. And I think you are one crazy son of a gun. I was going to say something else, but, you know, I'm trying to be good here. And I love, I love your personality. I think that's something, and I've only talked to you a few times, but I just have this deep love for you. And you've, you've actually sparked something in me because I've always loved astrology. I used to always remember people's, I wouldn't remember their name, but I knew what their son and moon was. And they're Mercury and all like, I'd be like, yeah, you're a Gemini and you're, this is Aaron, you're that's Aaron. And it, and it's because it helped me so much. And like all of us, I have a deep love for like God consciousness. I have a deep love for helping people understand themselves and giving them hope. And we need things to back that up. We need to help people. And I think the thing I love about the lunar way is that take the 20 minutes, calm yourself down, do it, figure it out. It's not hard. You gave people multiple ways of understanding. And that was one thing I noticed and loved is that people really, their minds are so chaotic when they start something and they want an answer. But what

1:00:24 They have to understand is like, when I work on people, they would come back to me and say, I just wish you could follow me around. Because when I come to see you, I feel amazing. And then I leave and I go out into the world and I lose it. So here you have developed this, this app for people that they control it. They can go back in and look as many times as they want. Like Laura did, she picked November 9 to see what was coming for her. And the beauty of it is it was accurate. She has gone through exactly what they were saying. And now there's some, some progress moving forward into where she's going. So I listen, I commend you for what you've done. I love success stories about when people take what they're passionate about and put it into something that's helping on a universal level. And I love that. And I love that it sparked me because I'm all about consciousness, healing and helping people feel excited about their life.

1:01:22 Because what the hell are we doing if we're not enjoying what we're doing? Right, right. So we want to thank you so much, Maureen, for being on today. And I want to tell everybody go to I am Maureen Webb on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and get the link for the lunar way. Because it was, I think it's really going to be a game changer. Even for me, I'm so connected to the moon. And this is something that's been missing for me. Because I didn't, I'm very connected to the moon and very connected to my cancer side, but not astrology didn't always make a lot of sense to me, but I can see how this makes sense to me. And I would use this over a lot of other programs because it, it isolates exactly what I want. I want to know about my lunar return. And I want to follow the cycle of the moon in a way that helps me. So this is absolutely something I'm going to use. And I think a lot of people could get a lot of benefit out of it. Absolutely. Yay. Oh my gosh. Thank you. Oh my God. Like I have, I have been smiling this entire time. My cheeks are like, I'm going to have the buffest looking cheeks like ever. Y'all are just, oh, I just, I love sitting and like shooting

1:02:45 The shit with you guys and just being able to like share my passion with people who don't think I'm, I mean, I'm crazy, but I'm not like that crazy. Oh no, you're crazy good. You're crazy good. And that's the thing when, when soul star mapping is launched, we will have you back on to talk about that because I just feel like that is going to be another huge thing that's, it's just, I feel like it's going to spread. It's going to go like growing. So we'll have you back on to talk about that when it's all ready and when it's out there in the world, but I really enjoyed today. And yeah, I hope that, you know, I hope that you'll come back on and we'll just maybe there'll be other things that will have a chat. Yes. Love, love, love, love. So excited. Anytime y'all have my phone number. We anytime you want to talk, let's do it.

1:03:38 Perfect. So down. Perfect. All right. Thank you so much, Maureen. Thank you Maureen. We definitely will be having you back. All right. Thank you ladies so much. If you're interested in contacting Kim for Soul Awakening Coaching, please contact her at mksoulcoaching.com. If you'd like to check out my website and everything that I do, please go to laurawarrenmedium.com.