Are obstacles a sign I am not on my path?

0:01 Hello, I'm Kim and I'm Laura and today we're talking about our obstacles of sign. I am on the wrong path I feel like this is like a loaded question because most of the time when we're on our path everybody thinks because We are doing good things and we're changing that everything should come easy to us Yeah, and I've often got from people in the spiritual community that there's an idea That if you are on your spiritual path you've agreed to a spiritual path and that you're moving in the right direction and like you said doing good things that Everything should unfold easily for you that what you need should come to you provided by the universe and Kim and I have come to learn Through the school of hard knocks that that is just is not true No, and I think the bigger life you choose the more obstacles you Are faced with and I think obstacles are growth. So bring it on Well, that's it like we you have to remember that you you've chosen a spiritual path You obviously have or you wouldn't be listening to us And you have to trust that you have within yourself What you need to survive this life and thrive in it

1:16 Yeah, it's using a spiritual path means that you not only trust yourself You trust that you're given what you need But also you process the process and you have to know that obstacles Create growth and soul growth. So when you when you have decided you've committed to moving on a spiritual path in your life You've also committed to soul growth and soul growth can't happen Without challenge and I always say you're being stretched beyond yourself, right because before you had that experience You might have been closed you might have been Not had the confidence you had before that but going through hard things That's why I love somebody else's book or podcast that says you can do hard things We can do hard things and a lot of the experiences. I would have never guessed that My father would have been one of the best teachers. I've ever had now he absolutely taught me everything I didn't want to be but I also would say that we're the best and worst of our parents. So I feel like he misses out on knowing somebody really quite incredible because I'm he loves feeding birds I love birds. I love gardening. He loves gardening. He has tons of energy. I have tons of energy I can do just about anything. He's like that. So I get a lot of those things from him

2:36 But if I really was being honest I had to really learn through hard knocks with being his child and him being my father And that's part of this. Um, we talk about how How is it that when you walk a spiritual path that you feel alone like you feel like there's no one really there? And that's what makes some of these obstacles even more Or pronounced, I guess, you know, they hit you a little harder because they're personal And the idea that, you know, okay, we're a spiritual being and there's some souls That come here built into their plan. They come here to be in a sense abandoned Right. So it May not be abandonment in the typical sense it could be but it May just be that you are born into a family That maybe you don't quite fit in or you always felt like the black sheep, you know Or you always felt like you were the scapegoat and what the universe is actually doing when in your case You were born into a family very different from you and you were learning as you as you go You know, learn that trial by fire But what is happening actually is the universe is separating you from your family because that's what you asked for

3:56 And the reason you asked for that as a soul is because One soul advances much faster than a group So in your soul group If everyone was in the same belief system, which you really need to be if you are in a family You're you're under tribal law meaning if you break that tribal law, you're going to get kicked out So you don't you can't get kicked out of your family when you're a little kid You need your family to look after you So you follow you try to follow tribal law But you don't quite fit in or you don't quite understand what's happening Or there's things happening to you that you realize I will never do that to my kids or I will never do that as a person And you become separate and the reason for that again is that you propel so much faster ahead in your spiritual knowledge When you're an individual person you can change you just have to change yourself You don't have to change the whole tribe. Absolutely. So here's here's little kimmy, you know You know learning that she is different from her family And trying to figure out where her place is and then you know as an adult learning My place is within myself right within my own heart and my soul And it doesn't belong to anybody else and then You can have true true enlightenment true soul growth because you can move and do whatever

5:16 You know, whatever you feel is right. Absolutely. Yep, and I'm so grateful for that You know because it's I think the biggest lessons and the hardest lessons teach us the most and it's And in another way, you know, we're all in a state of judgment We judge them for acting the way they do they judge us for acting the way we do But truly it's not about judgment. It's just about truth and And trying to figure out where you where you chose to come to and for me That's going deep within my my heart and the feelings I have about things and how they've helped me grow Judgment kind of drops away in this case when you realize that you don't have to like the teacher No, you don't have to like the lessons, but they did Achieve the outcome that you needed they achieved the result that the soul asked for Well, and I look at my work in the healing profession and or even in coaching it's all If I didn't have all those lessons, I don't think I would be sitting where I am today And I always say to my clients it's like having a tool belt or you know a bunch of tools You know, I'm real good with a might or some really good with a table saw, but I am not good with a skill song I have not used it. So that analogy is just about life

6:32 There's certain things that hard things are actually not as hard for me Because of what I've experienced as a kid And I know sometimes when we sit around we talk stories. I'm a little bit surprised by Um, when you're used to things, it's just it becomes natural to you But other people they're like wow You did that you did this or it's like that happened to you. Yeah, like wow, but you know, it's it's just I'm just so grateful that I had all the experiences I had No matter how hard they were they taught me very valuable lessons And the biggest one I've learned is to truly love myself Yeah, exactly. And here's the trust the journey because it's been incredible. It keeps giving me more there's so many pieces to this and When we were we were learning that we were moving on a path and these You know things were in our way and some things in our way and something and and that's really not what you're taught when you When you when you first, you know join the spiritual community There's this idea that everybody's happy and everything's flowing and perfect and I used to say oh It's all puppy dogs and rainbows and everybody, you know, look at that pretty butterfly over there

7:50 And then the first time that Kim booked me to come to her center to do readings And my emergency break in my brand new vehicle stuck on The day I'm supposed to leave And I'm like, what is this about? Why is my emergency break in my van Stuck on you think about like the symbolism And that's hilarious and in new brunswick where I was I had a brand new john dear ride on and a brand new push mower and neither one of them would start And why because I'm a I was anal. I wanted my one looking good all the time you guys were coming People were coming. I was like damn maybe one more cut. Yeah. Yeah, right. She was trying to get the lawn perfect So that when we came to do readings, she like everything was Primo. Oh, yeah, so her lawnmowers are broken down I'm at the shop waiting for my vehicle and I'm like, I don't understand. We're gonna be so late Like and you weren't like I was like, oh my god, like it's taking so long. Why is it taking so long to fix this and So we finally get on the road and we just hit problem after problem. It was like there was construction There was, you know An accident there's this and I'm like, we are never going to get there and we showed up

9:08 To do to do this group reading. I think 15 people I think we're an hour and a half late at least something like that And we were speeding when we could because we're like we're going to be so late so When I got there and Kim's telling me her lawnmowers broke down and you know All the other obstacles throughout the day and I just looked at her and I said, you know what? I think when big things are happening big things happen, right? So we knew how big it was That we were there to do readings that I had met Kim that this was all happening We knew this this there's something huge about this and so you have to take everything together and kind of Assess your feelings assess how you're feeling within yourself And know like that this is a hard thing I have to do, but I really want the results So I always think about Isaac Newton's quote about his physics Theory that for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction And so for you are moving forward on your sole path Okay, and you are like you're choosing bigger and better things and why are you doing that?

10:20 Because you want change well and your soul is being called forward So whatever you chose and you agreed to is stepping in front of you and I I think that you know the childhood that we all have You know kind of gives us that experience and then For for you and I we both were married and we have very similar stories with how we met at 15 And that was our first life. And then this is our second life We say that all the time, but in saying that You know, we have been challenged on more levels than I could like we could never get through it in one hour Oh, that's it like the adversity that we faced Made it really clear where we wanted to go. Yeah, and so there's a reason there's a purpose for you having Challenge and adversity adversity and struggle You need to have that because you need to know what you want And this is the best way the universe can show you What do you want and it always shocks me This question will come up in readings all the time For me to ask spirit will tell me to ask the the sitter the client You know what to ask them what they want And I kind of cringe because it's actually a really hard question for most people to answer

11:42 And when I can answer But here's the thing it is really most people They don't know exactly what they want And so when you ask them it like it hits them really hard It takes them a second. They usually say I don't know And you need time to think about it, but what brings everything into focus Challenge and struggle. Oh boy and a new realization that I think you go through all these really hard things and they're hard on every level We have Laura and I have both had to go bankrupt when we left our partners for different reasons Mine was an accent hers was more personal matter with her ex Um, you know and we had personal matter. We had no money But you know back and forth back and forth from Halifax to new Brunswick We we have stories of like her driving to me with a wheel falling off me driving to her Uh in blizzards that she would she'd say oh, how are the roads and I'd say oh, they're fine As I'm driving and a car goes in front of me over to the other side of the road and in the ditch and one in a

12:58 A pond that looked like an 18-wheeler on the side of the road You know, we we really have had so many crazy obstacles to be together And who would have ever guessed that finding like a compatible on all levels of of Anything we can talk about here would have tested us to the level. We've been tested everything when we were together Was perfect. Yeah, you know our relationship how we got along like the even the down to the food we liked We liked all the same food. It was like it was eerie We were so much alike and we have obviously we're not the same people but we had so many So many similarities that it everything just felt so easy We were looking at each other like what is happening here this eat what I like and nobody else liked it So as a mom you don't make the things like a lot of moms you don't make what you want You make what everybody else wants you're trying to please people, right?

13:59 With you I was like what? Um, you'd say well, what are you making? I said, I'm hungry because you'd be working and I'd just be making myself something But I always make lots and I'd be like, oh you probably won't like this and you were like, oh my god I love that. I never ate that because you know, he didn't like that or whatever and or the kids didn't like it Yeah, so it's like it's the bonus of I love what she loves. She loves what I love We love doing the same things or I love doing things that maybe she never had a chance to do and vice versa Oh my gosh, we could have a whole podcast On all the highway at antics. Oh, yeah All the stuff that happened to us driving on the highway How many times I was almost thank god for intuition because I can literally Not all the time but most of the time I can even pick up on people's energy Driving beside me in front of me, you know, I should probably explain this too because yeah, we We for people that haven't been listening all along Um, so we met but we lived a five-hour drive apart And we were desperate to get to each other pretty much every weekend Yeah, um, you know, she would go back to st. John and work and I'd be in helifax with my kids And then we'd be fine trying to find ways to get back to each other So we were always traveling and there was a lot of hours spent on the highway a lot and in the beginning it was

15:21 Uh, well one Friday I'd be coming here and you'd be going there and there was times I came down just for the weekend and be driving back and War the you know, rub her right off the tires many times. Yes. Yeah, but I think that That was a myth. Um That you know, when you're on the right path everything it's like, oh universal just lay it out in front of you one brick at a time It's like bull crap. No, that is not true I'm gonna I'm here to tell you when you're on the right path things will get harder Yeah, they'll get harder, but the rewards are bigger. Absolutely And you'll see how you're starting to move into your own strength into your own like character Your own identity and your own connection with the with the universe and so You start to see the benefit of having to go through all these things Well, you have let me taken out of your own environment sometime to see who you are because I certainly didn't ever see who I was. I was a good Always a good kid good person good mom good partner, you know, all those things Because I always cared so much about all my roles Yeah, uh who I am and how I present myself to the world is very important to me Well, and that's it. You know what becomes easier

16:38 It becomes easier to know exactly who you are and exactly what you want, right? And so you you no longer let people treat you terribly you have better boundaries You know that I love I love fried eggs. I don't like scrambled eggs. You know, you know It's easier to make decisions and it's easier to stand in your own truth and in your own strength And just shine that part's easier the other things that you know, we all have to do Like whether we're getting jobs whether we're you know, trying to be healthier diet, you know Anything that anything that goes down to an earthly kind of physical thing that you're doing Those things May get harder So that's the thing we are here to tell you that it's not all puppy dogs and rainbows When you you know commit to a spiritual path It actually can in some ways appear harder But you have to remember that you're you are reaching your goals and the goals bring great Reward much more than you would have had if you weren't on the path Well, and even go on a few steps back, you know for both of us some of our podcasts We talked about different things and this one we talked about before but even before I met you I mean I had a renovation business like cleaning and and painting crack film and different things

18:00 And I had that for a long time and I had to be taken out of that work to get myself into this work Because I had to literally have the You know neurologists tell me that I had seven herniated disc at the time and that I needed surgery and all Blah blah my life was over and all this negative stuff And then I got a new doctor and my new doctor was very positive But I went into him and I said listen I know this is what I have. I know this was this is what's wrong But I'm here to tell you but this is not how it's going to go I'm going to find a way to get better And I don't want you to tell me any of the negative stuff. I literally said that to the doctor I said I don't want to hear it I know that it's being said that I have to have the surgery, but I I'm not going to have it And I just need you to help me along the way And I actually went to the bathroom and when I was walking out He was uh taking notes and he had been talking into his um Like a tape recorder. Yeah tape recorder and saying you know 38 year old very positive woman and I thought oh great because I'm I can't I can't go there. I couldn't go to the place where They were telling me this is what was going to happen and I was like no no no I have a choice I have a choice here and I can decide what side of the page I'm going to be on Yeah, exactly. So some of this is the way you choose to deal with it

19:21 And I know that when people are trying to do things and they're faced with a ton of obstacles They think oh my god, maybe I shouldn't be doing this So there are some things we're going to talk to you about as we go through but one thing to remember is that being In a place of wanting more Means that the universe is going to show you clearly through struggle or through challenge what you actually want And then because sometimes what we think we want we don't actually want Yeah, you know, so that happens But the other thing that happens too is you got to think you're Asking for more you're moving up in vibration. So as you move up in vibration Not everything comes along easily with you. There's a rebalancing that kind of happens So the physical world has like a lower vibration lower energy vibration and it takes longer to shift So sometimes we're moving up in vibration within our energy within our thoughts our emotions, you know our spiritual self But all the physical stuff isn't coming along with us too easy You know, so sometimes we have to we hear those stories of people that You know lose everything before they can make their million dollars, you know, or they Have to be in a place where they are things are taken away from them before they realize what they had, you know

20:41 And so you're and that's a real thing that happens. I think that happens to all of us on Like little levels. So maybe we didn't have to lose it all in a big way, but you know, we we lose Parts of these things, you know, like family, you know, when you decide to leave your your partner Not everybody's happy about that and it's because it's awkward. It's uncomfortable So people don't want to deal with hard things, but we have to trust what we chose to And by choosing it, we also chose to to grow and evolve and that means being stretched outside of yourself Which is not comfortable. It does not feel good. We fight it any change It doesn't matter if you're trying to dye it if you're trying to quit smoking or drinking or anything Any anything you're trying to change means you have to start doing things different than you did before Right and that's awkward. It's awkward. I used to tell my clients It's like every day you get out with your right foot and I'm saying you need to get out with your left now It's only awkward until it's not It's only hard until it's not and sometimes things are hard for a very long time and sometimes it's simply Listen, I have so many awarenesses. I could I could talk to you all week about this and it it happens to me

21:59 And we've been in this field forever And it's still you're not you're not just because you've evolved to this high level of consciousness and awareness Does not mean that you're excluded from these Obstacles and lessons. It's not like you get to the top of the mountain and go Who I'm done because think of it the other way if you're done, you would be done Right. It's it's like I try to tell my clients Don't be too hard on yourself. We're never done till the day we die and sometimes people on their death bed They're still having these big aha moments because the soul came here specifically for this human experience To have the experience of being And for each individual that's different. That's it like perspective is so important And if you're coming from the place where you understand that you are a lifelong learner And if you're if you're focused on your the soul side of yourself, you're just an eternal learner You're never going to stop learning. Yeah, but if you come from that point of view Then you understand that these things are happening for me For my soul growth for my learning. So if you ever feel like you're stuck, you know

23:14 You're stuck in in something there's this challenge you've been having and it's causing you a lot of struggle Or maybe you're trying to better yourself and there just seems to be challenge after challenge And you just don't know how you're gonna have the strength to do it Maybe take a moment and ask You know, you're asking yourself you're higher herself, but you're also asking the universe What is my lesson? Because if something just keeps beating on you, you know When you just feel like you're in the cycle that you can't get out of Starts to make you feel a little crazy. It means there's a lesson that you're missing You're missing something and something is trying to get through to you And so if you can just stop and have the awareness and say what what lesson should I be learning?

24:00 And usually it's right there. It's like great. It's it's like the how we say about intuition that's usually your first thought That's the right answer. But it's the same thing. It's right there in front of you most of the time It's the one thing you don't want to see it's like, oh my gosh, it might mean that You know, I know right now where I'm at and we're all we're all at different places But I know right now where I'm at in my life I know that I'm so close to everything I wanted on every level because I have So many incredible things in my life on multiple levels On different planes and it's incredible where I'm at But the thing that I wanted the most is I'm going to be very vulnerable here, but um I really wanted to enjoy in this life being a woman And I've been very connected to my masculine side where I've been trying to prove to myself In my life that I'm as good as any woman But that comes from my background that comes from a lot of my experience as a child of my parents But I can tell you that there is this beauty that I've felt more so since I've been with you And I've really loved being a woman. I love all the aspects of a woman I love the nurturing and the mothering of the children and the partners and I love cooking with my wife and

25:21 Things I that were more Like a job before I feel like it's fun now and it's opened up so much more So, you know, I'm at this place where I know that everything I want on a professional level Is right there. So the universe is brilliant. So it's like, oh, here it is right here But in order to get it, I have to walk through This last thing that I want for myself and it's something that is example, you know, like to make sure that I'm getting the exercise that I need every day because I'm somebody that has a Lot of energy and I need to physically work it off or I'm holding on to it And it can show up as weight. It can show up as stress mental Like programming it can show up whatever way it wants, but I know That and I'm going to the end and I know we're going to go back and forth a little bit here But I know that the reward is The better I feel about myself the more of my Like actual essence I can pull forward to move myself in the direction of the biggest Things that I chose to do, right?

26:31 Right, right. So it's like it's like brain It's like, well, I know like I know that stopping being present Having the awareness of where you are is important. But what you what you just described is like Part of your theme. It's like part of your soul theme. So your soul theme is to enjoy being a woman and to really Be in all the aspects of that in the best way you can in the highest good for yourself And that's a huge learning and knowing It's a lot better than when I ask spirit, you know, why did I poke a hole in my shirt 10 minutes before an event? And I can't get changed and spirits says, well, we're just trying to keep you humble And I'm like, okay, thanks a lot, you know, I like yours way better That you love it when those things happen. Oh my god We all have obstacles some of them bigger than others. Um, but yeah, just feel like there's a whole Deeper lesson here. This is not just you're on a spiritual path So everything should flow to you because you're a really good person Yeah, that's not deserved and you deserve or you've been through hard stuff

27:47 So you deserve easy stuff and meanwhile the universe is in the back room background going You know what you deserve if you deserve more soul growth, let's just pile it on, you know But honestly, I think about the stuff we go through like What's normal for us other people would be like, oh my god, right? Oh, yeah Just go from one thing to another we Now and then we'll talk to friends about some things that are going on and their jaws just drop It's like they're looking at us like Who are you? Oh, we thought your life was so great and easy, right? Those are being challenged. I thought you had the promise land and you're all good now We're happy just because we're happy doesn't mean life is easy Um, but I what I wanted to say to you was that that realization that you have had Has come to you through many many struggles And so what happens to us? It's it's like this awareness must come in this life There's a reason why you need this awareness to live your best life Really in a spiritual way, that's all we're asking for we're just asking for we want to live our best life so What happens is we're given all these struggles and challenge to break down our awareness

29:05 Break down that resistance So that you can get to the new awareness More awareness. Oh, yeah um put Sometimes I feel like we have to have our and we're we're highly evolved people But we still the universe puts our heads right through the walls Before we get it it's it just when I think that we're like gonna coast for a bit There is something else There's something else that we're supposed to learn or do or whatever and then we have to say thank you I just I just yeah say thank you and I ask for the energy to deal with all of this But really though We don't change unless we're Squished broken. Oh my god push down You know You you aren't going to change as a human if everything's easy and everything is just coming to you And so would it even make sense to be on a spiritual path and have things be easy?

30:03 It it doesn't even make sense the two things don't equal each other If you're on a spiritual path, it's not going to be easy, but it's going to be good Yeah, and you can you can try to be a good person all your life But that's not going to give you the reward You think it's going to give you either Or or I should say it's not always going to give you the reward you think right Because being good is not does not equal easy life You know and I I think about like they're the example that that I thought about before we started the podcast was You know you can you can plan two trips One trip is maybe an hour away. You drive in your car Stay at a little inn or a bed and breakfast for two days and you have a nice relaxing trip and then you go home Well, that's nice easy to plan Yeah, you know easy to do not a lot of you know things to Get passed not a lot of obstacles just pretty nice and easy But what's the benefit of that if the if all you want is a little time away and a little relaxation great But have you learned anything? Have you grown? What are you taking home with you? Are you different?

31:12 And you can compare that to a trip of a lifetime. Maybe you plan a trip to europe to You know tour European countries and it's three weeks long and you need to organize flights and your passport You have to look at all the climate the weather make sure you have the right clothes the right shoes What about the language? How are you going to talk to the people? What about the food? Do you have allergies? Can you eat the food? You know like I could go on all day So so you do all those things but why are you doing it because you want to plan the trip of a lifetime So that you can see another culture you can be immersed in their history. You can come back home Transformed so it's all in what you are wanting and what happens on a spiritual path is you continuously want More because you want more in the higher good and we're not talking about more like money or a bigger host or cars It's not that it's you want to be More fulfilled. It's those aha moments that happen all the time and you realize in them How Lucky you are for the simple things. I say this all the time. I've I've said it no matter what we've done podcast or whatever but um

32:29 I love our morning coffee. It's sacred and we've like it's always a big deal We just always doesn't matter where we are But it's like coffee time is like just talk time no phone. No nothing just we just talk and we start the day that way Every single day and I I love it too because the flora doesn't have her coffee. She's not good She's not fit to be around so I love it even the grandkids. We always say Uh, you gotta wait till she's done her coffee before she's functionable. Yeah. Yeah, I love I love your granddaughter. Ella and she just she that's how she wakes us up in the morning. She's like Danny we you want your coffee. Yeah, get you coffee. Get you coffee. The day doesn't start till after the coffee is had Yeah, that's right, but I think it's as much for me. It's about the sacredness of Coming together every morning in a way that we talk about the day and we're we're happy that we're here You know, it's I know it sounds corny, but for us, it's like a big deal. It's what we love and everybody loves something different And uh, even better when we can, you know, go for a walk afterwards and kind of release anything And there's there's simple things that I that I really love that we do And and they're sacred, but that's it you do Appreciate simple things when you've been through hardship

33:49 It really brings everything into that you get to see everything in the bigger picture You get to have a better perspective of what is important to you So listen if somebody would have told me that I'd love cooking as much as I do today And I love cooking more because of you because you love cooking And we both love food and we love what food brings in a crowd It brings togetherness. It brings connection. It brings conversation and You know, it's it's been something that's equally as important to us Well, that's it Are we going to complain about all the work and all the cleaning or are we just going to enjoy the moments Enjoy the moments with our family and friends and eating the food that we cooked with love and yeah, so I I think this is Really one thing that can help you is a perspective shift You know, don't hate the struggles. Yeah, don't hate the challenges Look at them As if they are learning they're learning experiences that will help you in the future You are learning things now That will help you later What if something happens to you and you need that learning so that later on you will be able to use it and navigate an even harder situation

35:05 So if you if you are looking at all these If you're looking at everything as obstacles, you're in trouble You're not going to be a very happy person Then life is going to be a long life And you're going to be stressed out and you're going to make everybody else stressed out around you and you're going to be cranky So why not why not look at things a little differently? One thing you can do which I I do this sometimes because it really does help me otherwise I think I would have a lot more like blow-ups because in the moment You're angry Or you're very involved in a situation and you're emotional So one thing that can help is just literally pause Take a deep breath And look at the situation as an observer So how would an outside person look at the situation?

35:52 And usually what happens to me is I realize that what I'm worried about is so little It's so you know minuscule it is not a big problem and it's easily solvable But emotions make everything bigger So, you know, there is that there is the the moment where you pull your energy back and you say I want to view this as an observer And it helps you not engage all the emotions so that you can get through hard things with more grace Well, and I think we think even even when we know what we're talking about it still doesn't matter You get stuck we get stuck in it in the moment and then we'll go Right and for me almost every time I'm struggling with anything and usually I'm a very curious person And when I have shifts which this year I this has been one of my favorite ears for my own personal self because I've felt happier Then I've felt in I've always been a version of happy but not to this level Because this this has been a level that I'm deeply soulfully happy because I spent so much time with the earth this year But when I ask a question and I'm struggling It's funny because I it's almost like we know the answer, but we're struggling to say no No, no, no, I don't want to look at that because that means I have to do this

37:12 And I'm not ready to do that And even in a funny way I can relate this to working on this house that I've renovated over the last three years I tell Laura she'll say oh well, we'll talk about what needs to be done And I'll be like I'm not doing that until I absolutely know 100 that I can do that and do it well So I wait and I'll kind of circle around it and say okay Well, I'll do the back splash tile because I know I can do that no problem But even putting the holes in the brand new cupboards for some reason was very stressful for me But yet I made all You know, we made all our own trim ripped four by eight sheets on the table saw and say like that didn't bug me But little things sometimes do because I go if I do it wrong. I'm going to rock this thing Well, that's that's a strategy too though. Yeah, that's like do what you can until you can do the other things You know, yeah, but that's a that's a great Like that's so evolved for me because before I would just go right at it Thinking that I was going to do it like perfect when I had no experience. No one ever taught me I just have this thing in me that says Yeah, but you can do it I know I even I even got you reading instructions on things and and that's my thing like I read all the instructions Right, it reads everything over and over and over before she does anything and Kim goes right at us

38:28 And Kim just attacks it, you know, but then goes, oh no, like how come this isn't fitting together, right? I'm like, um, you missed step six through eight Maybe go back But yeah, I got her this has to go there first before that can fit in there like this I'm taking credit for getting you to read instruction. Oh, you're you've made me But you know, there was there was always this pressure And that we put on ourselves to be something that our environment taught us to be so I think that's what it was and being with you it was like It was just easy I could just be myself and I could do whatever I felt like and Yeah, I don't think you'd even know if I made a mistake or not because you would just be like seeing the end product going Yeah, I knew it. You you know, that's yeah, that's great. I knew you'd do that. Well, I trust you Yeah, you know, but see I would have to go through the process But on one side, here's the funny thing about us. We're all this way there's some things that I think are really hard that end up being really easy for me And then there's things that are really easy that end up being really hard And I'm like, this is so crazy, right? That it's just that so perfect ties into this too because sometimes you think you're going to have an easy task ahead of you and then you realize, oh my god, there's

39:47 20 more steps to this than I thought there was like, you know, like Laura deciding that we're going to get this podcast going She's realizing. Oh no, we promise to put it out on this date and I still have 50 000 things to do So, you know, like these things happen, right? But the the idea is to have a perspective now We're not always perfect. We still have our emotions and our little opers and things. Oh boy, but But I'm what I'm saying to you is that it doesn't have to rule your life It doesn't have to take over. It doesn't have to ruin your day, you know And so it used to it's even think about that that it used to wreck our days but now the beauty of When you really love what you have and you trust where you're going You know that no matter what comes out, you're going to deal with it. And I think that you and I it's like we just kept These things would seem like I was going to go right through the wall and there was no getting back But it was like recoup. It's like your recoup time is way faster than it used to be, right? It used to take You know, I could even think of some of those discussions we had over the years and You know, it would usually be something else because you and I usually are so good together

41:03 But it's other outside forces that would make things harder and but they would come around and I would think That really didn't seem like it was that big of a deal now that I'm through it But boy, did it ever teach me and like an exponential amount Right like and on so many levels like and it I guess I guess if we could just tell everybody just stop It's like hit the pause. Yeah and then really think about Because I don't know what you but for me most of the time I go that was just ridiculous Well, that why did I even let my that is an old programming? I know better I know what this is about, but they all lead to the same There there's usually one thing that's holding you back There's one thing that you don't want to do whether it's lose weight or get a new job or Whatever, but it's that one thing that you're held up on And these are all like a lot of this, you know, we're talking about some external and internal things And I think when people get thrown off they get more thrown off when There's external things like that are continuously thrown at them like you get a flat tire You're late for work. Somebody keeps running you off the road. Yeah, you forgot your lunch, you know

42:20 Your supervisor didn't get the report you filed, you know, like we there's all these things that externally kind of show up And we think, oh my god, like what am I doing wrong? You're not doing anything wrong But maybe like I said it is time to pause and ask what is the lesson So is the lesson that you should pay attention that you've had those tires on for, you know, five years You need to change your tires like, you know, is the lesson that that sounds like you were talking to me Yeah, not at all. No, not at all driving on ball. I didn't even know it was driving on ball tires in a blizzard one time Oh god And then, you know, or could it be that you need to set better boundaries, you know With your family so that you do make sure that your work is all completed or do you need to You know, write yourself a list and be more organized at night time So in the morning you have everything like your lunch with you and so what is the lesson exactly and it's not that things are You know happening to you to hurt you or to throw you off or to make you upset or stressed out It's that these things are happening because they're trying to highlight all the things that would make your life so much better If you could just look at the change and look at what what might be better for you Well, and I think the irony for me is that

43:38 Now when when I go through things, I realize how Really simple life actually is And and I can say that because I've been through a lot Um, but really the things I wanted a life are not the things I thought I wanted I want the simplicity of being in a healthy relationship Where you can say anything you want I want to be able to play in the dirt everything almost everything I love that I can just go outside and play in the dirt and I have the freedom to do that and We both run our own businesses. So that means like right right now We're doing this podcast that night time and we normally wouldn't but we worked in the daytime So we have so much, um Choice over how we live now And we really live a comfortable life, but that doesn't mean it's easy, right, you know There's still lots of obstacles and I think the thing that I love about this is that You really do get to this place where the simplest things make you feel enormously grateful You know and you get to a place where you can read the signs easier and uh, I don't know If it's okay to go here, but You know, we were talking with podcasts and saying like, you know, how do you know

44:57 When you get to the place where you're you kind of got the lesson And we both have different ways of knowing this but for me, it's like I always have this thought You know that enters my mind And then it kind of drops down into my heart and I have a feeling about that thought And then it drops down into my gut where I have a knowing And usually it comes back up to the heart and I go, oh yeah, right So, you know, this is the right thing to do and oh my god, it feels so good And then it goes back up to the head where I go, okay So because I had that awareness I get to up level Or I always say I have all these downloads and when I can work through them, I get an upload It's like a game life, um, but and then it's like I drop more into some the simplicity of life Yeah, and I realized that these big things aren't so big and for you, you have well, I always notice like first of all I this was I don't even know how long go but I had asked my guides for help with this certain problem that, you know I couldn't figure out what direction to take in my life and I couldn't figure out why You know, things felt so hard And I was told that our emotions are a powerful tool

46:12 And we just don't really know how to use our emotions properly You know intuition is some is works in different ways And one of the ways that it works is through your own emotions and you can also use your physical body as like an instrument And so I was taught by my guides to use my physical body Paired with my emotions to show me What the right path was to take And it's pretty simple actually when when I was faced with the decision I could feel in my heart center in my chest. I could feel my chest open up As almost like if I was going to move on the right path It felt like energy or almost like air could like blow right through me. I just felt safe I felt open. I felt calm centered You know peaceful knowing. Yeah, that's like this kind of quiet Knowing this quiet confidence that this feels right to me. This just feels good. I feel at home here And if something came my way that wasn't right for me What would happen was I would tense like I would feel all the Muscles in my neck and my shoulders tense

47:28 Almost feel like I had a steel plate over my chest And then I'd usually have like a little bit of a stomach like pain Maybe even a headache But my emotions would be like like an anxiety That felt extreme like it just felt like this isn't right like something I gotta you know, something's not safe or something that's something's not right And I learned to tell the difference between a nervous excitement And between an actual dread like an anxiety type dread So paying attention to my emotions, but also pairing them with how my body felt Really helped me to make decisions that were right for me And I could see when things even if things were hard If it felt like within me I could reach my core sort of like my centeredness And feel grounded and feel like this, you know, even though this Um decision that I'm being faced with this possibility that's in front of me seems outlandish and crazy You know because that's the other thing is like divine information doesn't always make sense to us So divine information about your future It's probably bang on but it's not meant to make sense to a human energy

48:47 Until it actually starts unfolding. So a lot of times the divine might give you messages and things It might seem totally out of out of nowhere like it might seem totally crazy To you in that moment, but then if you can trust it and you can watch it unfold, you'll see why You'll see why you're being led down that path and what's happening to you along the way is exactly the way it's supposed to be So there's a trust element here too, but massive, but I I always I was taught by my guys to use my emotions to my to my benefit because I have a lot of emotions I'm a very emotional being And so it was really important for me to get a handle on my emotions and I'm human Sometimes things get away from me. I think they get away from anybody. Oh, yeah, but actually having that Confirmation like I could use my physical body as an instrument to connect to what is right for me And you'll hear people do things like muscle testing and things like that There are there is an energy a conscious energy in your body That knows much better than your thinking mind or your brain And so it is often better to trust the conscious energy

50:03 Then it is to trust your brain and I think I used to love the pendulum thing because I could make it do whatever I wanted. Oh, I know so I was like, no, this isn't gonna work. Listen, I don't have to program it Well, that's it pendulums. That's another topic because we could talk about we could talk about that We could also talk about how our brain does work against us And I think we did talk about that in the first very first podcast that sometimes, you know, something You know, you really desire and want to do seems crazy But you know, like it's actually the exact thing you should do But the beauty of this is the more grounded you are the clearer the messages come through Yeah, absolutely. So that's the goal the goal is to get to a place within yourself that You're you're honoring who you are in a way that you're doing the things that work for you And everybody's different. Some people, you know, meditation works. This works. That works You know, I told the client today. I said I did my first level Reiki in February 16 2006 and I have never And I mean never not done Reiki to myself every single day And you know, this is true. Yep. I'm on a needle bed every night I I can let's tell people what it actually is. It's called the acupressure mat

51:19 But Kim and I have lovingly called it the needle bed Yeah, because you're sitting on it's made out of metal like there's all these little points But it when you get off that thing after half an hour, let me tell you Yeah, but it works, right? So I'm somebody who I'm very good at doing a lot of the things I need to do But the funny thing is there's some things that are very I would say I don't I don't understand why I won't do it Um, I do it sometimes and not all the time, but I need to make it a habit Hey, but you know acupressure mat people we could you know, you could be a sponsor on our show We use that thing all the time. It's ridiculous. I I really swear by that thing I've seen me get up at four o'clock in the morning From being on my feet too much or doing work from a bad angle with my back and uh Four o'clock in the morning, I'll grab the needle bed I lay on it for a while and sometimes my wife is ridiculously hilarious though Because this thing works by it it attacks the nervous system in a beautiful way So it relaxes it when you're but you're in pain from being on this thing, right?

52:28 My wife falls asleep on it. Well, there is literally thousands of needle points on on this mat So you lay on it and there's a pillow too and there's a little pillow for your neck and full of more needles And uh, it's it's like fun. It's sharp like sharp points But it's the idea that if you lay on like a thousand sharp points, then they're not going to puncture the skin Right, so it actually pushes on the fascia helps release it But it also improves circulation and engages engages the nervous system in such a way that it takes all the attention Away from the things you don't want to pay attention to or shouldn't pay attention to I guess It calms the nervous system incredibly because what I I fall asleep on it all the time So this is it. We're we're you know, we're actually advertising acupressure mats now. So, you know, come on sponsors bring it on That's it. No more talking about the mat until we get our check. Yeah, it's just that I do all these really Hard things that I have to do to keep my boss body moving because what's what's the new saying you're doing? Uh Motion is lotion. Motion is lotion. Yeah, thanks. Thank you, dr. Dan. Yeah, we'll tell him to listen to this. Yeah, that's right

53:46 Um, no, so here's the whole the whole wrap up the whole point of this is that Yes, you have agreed to a spiritual path. Mm-hmm That doesn't mean that any part of this is going to be easy. In fact, probably none of it is gonna But how much fun would that be if it was all oh my god think of the stories we have to tell You know our grandkids for the rest of their life, you know what? I picture I picture us Dancing through a field of wildflowers with like butterflies and oh, there's a beautiful rainbow And you know, oh look at all the kittens and that's that's what I just like That's not what I picture but you know Everything is wonderful. We have our bead necklaces on okay. I can go for that So so the whole like the crawl around in the dirt and you know, that's why I have you but But you can have some of that It doesn't mean that the spiritual path is all like doom and gloom because it definitely isn't or Or all rainbows and butterflies because it is not it isn't but I like to look at it as balanced So I like to see it as we have a little bit of this and a little bit of that and it actually is quite Kind of like self affirming or it makes you feel very Autonomous within yourself when you're on your path

55:04 You feel like you're moving in a good direction for growth And so don't let the obstacles and the struggle fool you Don't let it throw you off of what you really want or what you're really where you're really trying to go Because those things are there they're there for you They're like the sub lessons along the way and if you're paying attention, they will help you They will help you get to where you want to go. Absolutely. I always say it's like, you know, you're you're driving No No path When we talk about our spiritual path, no road is a straight paved road. You know this whole Evolution of our souls is about you know, sometimes you damn near drown in a mud puddle Sometimes you almost get knocked out by a branch like life just takes you off course sometimes but for good reason Honestly, isn't that what makes life interesting? Like if we think of survival like you learn how to survive under unbelievable circumstances, but It's what it teaches you wouldn't we be bored if everything was easy and everything just came to us easy And we remember that next week and all the right Right and think about your analogy of the straight paved road Right all the roads were straight paved. We'd be so bored. Yeah, we are in it for the twists and turns

56:20 So enjoy the twists and turns as much as you can Look at the lessons for you be in the moment and understand that this is a world of contrast And that we are meant to have contrast so that we know when things are good And if we didn't have the bad we would never see the good No, that's right So That's our that's that's our spiel for the week our rant for the night for the night. Hopefully you enjoyed it And uh, we will be back next week with another one If you're interested in contacting Kim for soul awakening coaching Please contact her at mksoulcoaching.com If you'd like to check out my website and everything that I do Please go to laurawarrenmedium.com