The Beauty of Death

0:00 Hello, it's Kim and it's Laura welcome to episode to the beauty of death in this episode We pull back the curtain on how we as intuitives see death Today's podcast is the beauty of death We all have a different perception of what death is I think for me It's sometimes in most cases when somebody progresses to the point of dying. It can be quite beautiful I know that in sudden accents and stuff. We wouldn't all say the same thing But I think when people pass for me, I feel like they've left the human plane and things like pain and suffering or not everybody has a beautiful life So I think sometimes that that comes into play and I also think that We always look at things from a perspective of pain and sorrow when sometimes it can be about

1:17 Happiness and Rejoining their family on the other side. I I totally changed my idea of what death was It was really was my car accident. I don't know what happened But something in me just switched and I wasn't afraid of death Much to the disappointment of people around me because they thought there was something wrong with me, but But I actually started looking at life and death quite differently and it probably already was happening because I was doing readings and so I I was talking to you know, the spirits of of past on loved ones for people for sitters and Realizing that you know, they weren't sad, you know, or they weren't unhappy and the messages were usually of hope So I was already starting to change but in my I guess in my own personal feeling about it I didn't realize that I had a fear of death until the accident But then what came from it was I wasn't afraid anymore. I knew that whatever was on that other side was perfect and full of love and and also had the awareness to that

2:38 We don't always know or don't always Feel I guess that our loved ones in the physical are going to be okay, but Typically that's the message that a lot of spirits get and the transition from the physical life Into death Although, you know death is a funny word for me because I know nobody really dies But that's that's how we have to frame it. We need those words. I feel that way too. Sometimes it's like I Spend a long part of my life not even thinking about it actually until I lost a few people that I've really cared about and my feeling in the moment because I was there when my grandmother passed and stuff and I Had this feeling that you feel you kind of feel them leaving and like this freedom for them and It's not it's not quite what we've been told it is and I think there's so many times I listen to you, you know when you're doing group readings or whatever and I I love the way you you represent the spirit and The way you communicate their personality through your readings to me That's always been something that I've been, you know a little bit in love with but I think all of our experiences bring us to this awareness and

3:58 I've had some really cool experiences through the healing work and one of them was with a Lady she her name was Muriel and she was 88 years old and you know It was right after I found out that I couldn't keep doing the work I was doing which was renovating and I had done odd jobs for lots of people and this lady asked if I would Consider working and taking care of her mom and I had already been there every Friday for lunch and I was doing some Cleaning for her at the time and I just loved her because she was an extension of my grandmother We were super close and I had just finished doing a orc perception course And I was sitting watching her and she had dementia and She always remembered our routine though every day It was funny, but she she was sitting at the table and she did Sudoku every day after after lunch and She I looked over at her and she had her head in her hands kind of like her head almost on the table her hands were just supporting it and When I was looking at above her head There's a cone on the top of her head energetically and it's it's smaller at the bottom and I'm wider at the top and Hers was tipped over so when I looked at her right away

5:15 I could see this cone laying flat, and I thought well, that's not normal and So right away my intuition kicked in and I could hear We're ready to take her when she's ready to leave and oh my gosh that that ever hit me. I was really upset about that and I don't think I knew till that moment how much she had replaced my grandmother for me and I had to step outside and I I was upset and I was at this place where I was like I can't like say Say goodbye. I'm not ready to let her go and then I thought who am I to say that she's not even a relative But I called a good friend that was in the work, and I just told her what had happened And I also seen the second I seen the cone laying flat I also seen an angel and it was Archangel Gabriel and it was just the head and they were Perfectly over top of her head and it was like a blue color intricate curls Like I could tell you full detail of what I seen and it absolutely freaked me out But when I talked to my friend, she said that you know Gabriel had showed up to help her transition

6:34 So when you say you you saw Gabriel, can you explain like how that happens? I was just kind of staring but not really staring at her directly kind of like you know how you look at something, but you're not really staring directly at it and First it was a cone and then I got the information and then like within seconds Gabriel was there and just just as if it showed up out of like just in the second It was just like bam there and so it's like you're seeing the energy Yeah, and I was seeing it with my eyes open a lot of times I see things with my third eye and my eyes closed But this was eyes open looking at her right above her head and it was just like You know it sounds funny, but it was just like the head of Gabriel. Yeah, just the head And just so intricate and the eyes were closed and the energy was so soft and so loving and so kind and It it really threw me off because again, this was in the beginning and I hadn't had a lot of experiences like that So this one really threw me and I was emotional. I was in front crying and talking to my friend going. Oh my god What's happening? But the thing I've always loved about myself is that I've always had the courage to carry

7:55 The message to the person's family and No matter and believe me just I can I know you must have had this a lot, too Is that people look at you like you got five heads and what the heck are you talking about and all that so I I did tell the family But the the funny thing was the very next day Because part of what I was there for was to bath her and stuff and we had a regular routine We did and she was the cutest thing. I was just in love with this woman, but When I bathed her it would be she had this big bath tub and you had to kind of pull her out of it Yeah, and then I would put her in the walker and Get her underwear on and put the baby powder on her because she loved it in her shirt And then I would take her over Beside the mirror and I give her a good head massage as I blew dry her hair And then she would waddle I can still see her in my head right now Waddling over to the bed and I would rub her feet and her legs and her arms and her hands and then I would put pawns cream on her Face and I kiss both sides of her face and then she'd have a nap and That was our routine every time. I think it was Monday Wednesday Friday or something like that So this day I have this message and then the very next day for some reason

9:13 I'm putting her in the bathtub and I take the phone with me, which I never did I just it was never on my mind, but something in my consciousness knew something was going to happen so I I put her in the bathtub. I'm getting her out. I remember it being a Friday morning and She that was it she was gone and she was starting to do that last breath thing Where I've seen other people my grandmother grandfather and that do and I was I grabbed the phone I called her daughter who was right in the same driveway and the funny thing was spirits so funny because Her husband in seven years that I'd been working for her was never home on a Friday morning and that day he was home So while I had called her she was coming over I Had thought oh my I have to get like poor Muriel is naked And I had gotten her out of the tub and was holding on to her and it wasn't an easy thing because wet You know, it's like holding a wet fish in a sense And then I just something told me that she was so she was such a What's the word? I'm looking for it like She didn't want people to see her like that. Oh, so just like really proud Yeah, and so something hit my intuition that just heard in my head take her and put her in bed

10:32 Right on her bed cover So I picked her up and I carried her over to her bed and when I put her down You can imagine she's a you know, she's a grown woman. She wasn't very big But still it's a lot of weight the whole dead like dead air. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and When I put her down it like it did something so that it resuscitated her Yeah, and by this time the ambulance were driving in the driveway Her daughter had already been there and been running through the house frantically because she could see she took her last breath This was real. This wasn't something I was making up out of my head And when she came to the the ambulance were actually pulling in the driveway And I knelt beside her and I had had just put a blanket over her and she came to and I knelt beside her And I knew that she did not want to be resuscitated. Yeah, and she looked at me and I said I'm so sorry And she said why are you sorry and I said because I know you didn't want to come back here You were ready and I said, I don't want you to be mad at me and she looked at me and she said I could never be mad at you. You're an angel and I I still get emotional. I still get emotional with that because um, that was such an incredible

11:50 Experience to have and it softened me and She taught me so much more About life and death through working on her. Yeah, like looking after an elderly person there's so many different parts to that and it's it must have like Really shifted you like really taught you not just about like softening understanding compassion But there's so much wisdom in very simple things and and I think I love the fact that One thing I can say about myself all my life is I've always known who walked with me So I've trusted if something was showing up in my experience then I trusted that it was there was a purpose for it and It was either teaching me or it was a gift to me or or whatever But it's always a positive thing. So then after that she She lived for two or three months and a nice thing was that because I trusted what I picked up on and I told the family her two of her children from out West came home her son and a daughter and When they came

13:05 They would say things to me like well They had a friend that was a Reiki master teacher and I had still only had my first level And I was getting all these incredible things and I knew in the moments that these things happened to me that the universe was Really training me for what was to come for me and what my true purpose was which was this work and understanding life and death and people and And how we you know really don't need to hold on to anything and the way we always say let you know We all we never die. We just transition to another level of existence, you know But her her son And her daughter came home and both of them wanted a treatment with me and they told me how lucky I was How a lucky their family was to have me in their life and you can imagine a newbie like me, you know having this profound experience and You know, I just felt so lucky I just felt like I won the lottery really and I mean, you know, not a lot of people to say that it's death But the neat thing was that they came home. They got to spend time with her and one of the things I loved about the whole dynamic of her family and what I did working with her was at night time

14:26 Right before she had passed. I mean, I'd been taking her to the doctors and different things and We were laying in bed one night and she was just like a really tiny little woman like so cute And I would put her she would literally like lay in my shoulder and my arm wrapped around her And her family had put a picture of all of them above her bed so that when she woke up She that's the first thing she could see which I thought was just absolutely beautiful And we were laying there and she said, why do you keep taking me to the doctors? And I said, well your family's trying to keep you here and keep you good. So You know, they're you've got doctors appointments And I said, why are you like ready to leave? And she said, well, she she had said Well, what if I'm ready to leave and I said, well, are you ready to leave and she said yes And I'm telling you she was the cutest thing she put her head on my shoulders If she was like saying goodbye right there to the point where she actually freaked me out a little bit because She had stayed like that for quite a while And then she put her head up and looked at me and said, oh, guess I'm it's not my time yet Well, I guess she knew oh And it's so funny because anybody that knew Muriel knew she loved chocolate And every Friday I made her a chocolate cake with chocolate frosting and as much as she had

15:42 Dementia She she remembered. I feel like she remembered The way things happened every day like she knew to go do sudoku She knew that you know, we were going to have lunch at 12 o'clock and she had supper at five o'clock And I think that somewhere inside of her all those things are just manually working all on their own But even the day she passed she died on Easter And we all laughed about that because she loved chocolate so much. We said she ran away with the easter bunny. Oh But see that experience especially at the beginning of your Journey sort of as a helper and as a healer That's it's so good to have those experiences because you see the humanness in Something that people think is terrible think people are afraid of it But it really is quite a beautiful transition If we are if we're able to see it if we're not looking at it through the lens of fear, right? And that's so important so This idea Like our energy our consciousness. It's not an idea. It's it's a fact but our energy and consciousness doesn't die

16:57 But the physical body cannot continue on forever, you know science hasn't gone that far yet I haven't figured that one out, but our Our energy continues on in some existence and this is where a lot of people need People like you and me because they haven't had the experiences. We've had they don't have the information we've had But if you are able to watch and look at somebody's passing Through a different lens through the lens of trust and the lens of belief You see you see so many different things and see you were you were already on your journey of becoming a Reiki master teacher So you were already watching this with different eyes, which is so beautiful And you just opening your mind to take the aura Perception course so you could see her aura and seeing you know the cone of energy above her head and seeing Gabriel above her head I mean, I have to tell you that someone close to me I saw Gabriel as well with them before they passed but it was it was probably about I'd say Two years or so before they passed but they were they were

18:15 Ill they had They had heart issues. So when I saw Gabriel, of course Knowing what I knew at the time I completely panicked. I thought oh my god. She's gonna die, you know And and it was just a sign to show that they had help and support from the angelic realm And it's so beautiful. It's like it's amazing It's just amazing to know this and to see be able to it's a privilege and a blessing to really be able to have this kind of information And you know, so your experience with Muriel Did how did that? How did that change you further? Well, the belief was so much deeper and and truthfully one of the other things was I didn't realize that when I first got the message and I seen Gabriel and stuff I was selfishly Emotional but for me because I was like I'm not ready to lose her yeah because she had become A replacement in a sense of my grandmother who I was super close with that was the You know, I was always at my grandmother's when I was a kid and that was like my safe Haven and I just I I can close my eyes and remember

19:31 Sunday mornings waking up with the smell of bacon and eggs and homemade bread and coffee and It's there. It's there every time I have the memory. So for me She was like my second grandmother and When I got the message that she was ready to leave. I was like, uh-uh no way. I'm not ready. You can't go and the day the next day when This all transpired when I knelt before her bid. I knew exactly why I felt bad because I felt like I brought her back For my own selfish reasons. So I had a few months to work on it and be with her And the day she was silly with me and later head on my chest In spirit because like you we talked to people's higher self As well as talking to their physical self and in the moment I just in my head said if if this is her time, then I can't hold on to her. It's not fair And that's when she was silly and you know, I just said to her. Well, are you ready? And you know, she did that So that is a good point though because the grieving is really for the people for the living And spirit when they when they transition and cross over It's like an immediate wash almost like an immediate awareness of everything they need to know

20:53 And so in that moment, they're at peace because they understand Why this is happening how it's happening and they do have a feeling like Their loved ones are going to be okay But we in the physical Don't get all those feelings because we're not in we're still human. We're still physical So we don't have all the knowledge and so of course People worry did my as my loved one. Okay. Like did they get to the other side? Are they peaceful? Like are they still suffering? Did did they suffer before they died? Like these are all regular questions In in your case You connected Muriel to your grandmother who you miss dearly And muriel kind of filled that space for you while she was here So of course you would grieve her because the actual physical person is not there anymore So you can't just go visit have a tea with them call them up on the phone You know those things are are gone and that's we miss the connection. We miss the we miss that that physical touch or the physical voice And the actual interaction with the person and of course, that's why we grieve But we must we have to know in spirit that they are so okay. We don't need to worry about them

22:10 They are worried about us. Absolutely. And I I think the beauty of podcasts like this and you and I wanting to do this is to educate people in a sense on you know The world is so full of anxiety and And depression and we we take every opportunity to feel bad about everything and I don't believe My new awareness of death is not what it used to be I don't look at things the same way. I look at the person being free from this human heavy bodiness Into a light being place where they don't have anything wrong with them. They're they're free. There's no disability Whether it's mental or physical or whatever and we can look at people and we want to hold onto them for our own selfish reasons Just like I did and and that really got me in the moment because I was like wow I'm holding her here and I I can't do that. I that's not okay so but and again, it's like so many times I You know, I have these thoughts and feelings about people that have passed and they're all good It's they're free. They're they're doing what they love in spirit and they're learning and I I think it's a good thing

23:27 We only live as long as we do because you wouldn't want to stay in this life for too long because you I think you get too wrapped up in constantly trying to do better be more And sometimes more isn't better and that's it when we transition our life experiences ending at the perfect time Absolutely, and I think we have to know that that when somebody transitions into the spirit world It actually is their block of life Like that is their time and they've learned what they came here to learn in this life And so on one level, you know, I guess you couldn't be afraid to stop learning because you know Stop learning you might be leaving this world but um, but no really it's Either everything so intricately planned that that sole blueprint knows that When you have completed the things on your list you you it's time to go and you know, it's funny because um my grandmother will be 94 in a couple weeks And everybody talks about her like what is keeping her going like she's you know, she She's still in her own home. She has some she has care But she's still telling all her beautiful stories and she's still smiling and

24:46 And spending time with people that she loves and so everybody's wondering like, you know What's left for her? Why but there obviously is something left because she wouldn't be here. She wasn't meant to be here um, but that's the thing like I watch I watch this this transition happen Through spirit's eyes almost every reading and it's so beautiful. I always say to people I wish I could show you what's happening In my mind's eye. I wish I could project it onto a screen for you Because what I see is beautiful energy love color I mean we can talk about and I think we will we'll talk about what can go wrong and why um Why I have so much work to do why I have so many people calling me all the time because you know, every death transition is not perfect Um, and that is why I have some I have lots of clients And people have baggage and people have baggage. They have things they need to work out the living has we we have things that we need to have closure about But really what I see is When the physical body is dying The spirit can leave at the appropriate time and I say the appropriate time because when the physical body is letting go

26:06 The spirit knows when to leave the energy knows when to leave and sometimes the physical body will hang on A little bit longer like an extra day or like extra few minutes hours, whatever But I I have experienced this watching a loved one pass away Where their physical body we knew it was happening. They were in the hospital Um, and their physical body was you know, definitely, you know Like she was unconscious. So we knew it was going to happen And I was standing beside her bed and I felt this rush of energy come through my solar plexus and had the immediate awareness That her mother was there to get her And just so that you have a time frame this was in the afternoon probably two or three p.m And she passed that night around 2 a.m So her physical body her time of actual death was later But I felt her energy leave the body 12 hours earlier So this is important to know because some people are, you know, medically compromised during comas. They are Maybe they are suffering with Alzheimer's dementia, you know, could be any number of issues But sometimes the spirit just leaves the body

27:22 It's just gone and there's just enough energy there to keep the body going until the body finally lets go so When it when this energy is transitioning There is a real feeling of energy the consciousness of the person peeling away from the body And then a loved one in spirit Usually Some loved one whether it's a friend or relative will come from the spirit world to meet them And take them to where they need to go and in in human terms, we don't have all the right words for how this happens We don't have the right vocabulary So I have to talk about it as if they go to a different place, but really the other side is here It's just a different energy frequency. So your loved ones are even in spirit. They're not far away from us, but Regardless, there is a loved one that will come as a guide to help the person who is passing away It's it's funny because um, obviously not funny. Ha ha but My mom passed last October and the week before she did we were back and forth all summer, but I knew that my grandmother was going to show up and I even told my mom before she had one of her episodes She was worried about a few things and I just said to where I said, you know when your time is up

28:43 And you're ready Nan's going to show up to take you But what happened was the week before she actually passed her mother and both her sisters showed up in my bedroom and I got the A strong feeling that nan couldn't have did it by herself. Mom was her baby. Yeah, and It was going to be it was going to be very intense and you know emotions run high for spirit too Yeah, it really really does Oh Yeah, but I just the thing about my mom's death for me was that I actually Got to enjoy it in a way that I never thought I could Had I not had the experiences I've had in this lifetime because I do know that it's just the process of life. I I've never believed in this hell You know That we go, you know, it's heaven and hell and all that stuff You know and and that's another podcast, but it's um, it isn't I've never had that thought I just always had this feeling like, you know, when we pass it's like We're sitting in a movie theater and we see our life flash before our eyes

30:00 But it's more we're looking at it from a completely new perspective because it's a perspective We didn't have before that moment and the in the awareness depending on how much your awareness you've had Until then you really don't know where it's going to take you but for me I just see I just see people sitting there looking at their life and Yeah, sometimes it can be a little painful if you know, you were somebody that Really had to get hit in the head hard to learn a lesson. I would say it's going to be a little bit harder for you to watch but I I always felt like it was such a beautiful process of leaving here and going there and Why is there a white light? Why does everybody feel the way they do? Yeah, you know, you're the lady So that's the thing is that uh as a medium what I see is I see A variation of a very similar experience But you know people that have near-death experiences they talk about a tunnel and a following a light and And that that can very well be um for some people I think it depends on the on the person's perception of what

31:18 You know that looks like but really think about it. You're leaving a physical energy And frequency and you're moving into pure energy. So there's gonna be A transition there's gonna be some kind of change that you're aware of So it actually does appear like you're moving into the light because it's a very high frequency It's not what we're used to the the physical frequency frequency is much lower vibration So moving into that higher vibration It would appear like you're walking or moving towards maybe flying towards a bright light You know And then once that settles out and you can regain your footing It looks like to me that spirit then meet all their loved ones that have passed before them kitchen party A huge party just like a family reunion But everybody's there, you know, everybody that you've loved Everybody that has loved you everybody that you've had contact with um, and so they really get to like just See everybody again and and talk to people and and it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful time of forgiveness

32:34 People show up that have hurt you that you've hurt and there's a lot of that coming together and Reconciling and love and connection And it's pretty simple and quick, isn't it like after yeah, like this doesn't take very long And and that's the thing in the um spirit world or if you want to say the on the other side They don't have a concept of time like we do our time here is very linear and actually quite slow Compared to the other side and things can happen rapidly just in the blink of an eye They could have a full experience So family reunion great have a party Um now for some spirits, I will say that when what what I said earlier about how sometimes things go wrong And when people are in a very difficult life and they die in a difficult way Or if there's something if happened that they died at their own hand So drug addictions ods suicides terrible accidents Um sometimes the soul Has been so beaten up by life. And so you know bruised and damaged There's so much love for them. There's so much love that wraps them and supports them that I actually call this a cocooning phase

33:56 So that can happen for souls that have had just a terrible experience that First before anything they are cocooned and they are held safely until they are ready for the next step So I should mention that in there because that that does happen. Sometimes it happens before anything else So there's that but that's a very healing time and it's a very protected time and very controlled This is like not something um that most spirit Um experience and some for a very short time they May experience this and that's all they need But the cool thing So if we get to this the place so the energy's left the body The love one in spirit has come to get them. They have their family reunion And let's just say they don't need the cocooning. They're okay. They've they've done all their um Kind of I'm sorry's and forgiveness in the family reunion. So it's all settled Then they go on and they do a life review So the life review thing is super cool because Again, it shows up in the perception that we May Have of that. So we some people see it like like a movie You know playing in front of them some people see it differently like scenes and flashes

35:17 But what I what do I take comfort in the life review is a time where people Spirit like the soul of the person Comes to the place of complete awareness meaning they're watching their life and they're seeing People that they affected but feeling all the emotions So if they had caused somebody to have an emotion They will feel it. So when we talk about You know karma and these kinds of things Karma is Another that's that is another podcast too, but but Part of this karma experience when you cross over is actually feeling What you have put out there in this world So if you've put out love and compassion You're going to get a hell of a lot of love and compassion coming back to you in that life review If you have spewed, you know vile You know nasty things your whole life You're going to get a whole lot of that in your life review You're going to get the hurt that you caused other people So this life review actually is quite comforting for me because I feel like when people are unaware of how they affect others Eventually they're going to come to the place where they are in awareness

36:35 So you know how you know somebody cuts you off in traffic and you're so mad Well, my my comfort in that is that well someday they're going to figure it out, right? You know whether it's in this life or the next it's going to come back to them And that's really how like that little kind of piece of I guess the karma description That's how it works in the afterlife but then I have seen souls go different ways after this after the life review because sometimes they see oh my gosh I really affected my daughter will say and my daughter really needs me So they take an assignment to be bound to their daughter to help in any way they can from the spirit world Or sort of it's sort of like I don't want to say it like it's paying off a debt. That's too simplistic, but it's sort of like. Oh my gosh I can't believe they feel that way. I'm going to step forward and I'm going to help them But they May take other assignments and I've had Spirit connection with souls that decided to take an assignment to Like again, human words are not really right but to take an assignment to be like Somebody who works in orientation So when people come to the other side, they kind of are the tour guide and they show you around

37:54 You know, or maybe they take an assignment in the akashic records field Or maybe they take an assignment in more of a healing field. Maybe they take an assignment in Evolution and expansion of soul knowledge and energy So they can take different assignments on the other side and they can actually still learn And progress as souls Maybe they did something really awful in their life, but they don't want to repeat it So they make sure that they fix the things inside of them so that when they come back into this life It will never happen again That that's that's incredible that you just hit on that because one of the other things I was going to talk about is Sometimes in the healing profession doing what I've done for the last 20 years We think we know when we get into a situation with a client. What's What's meant to happen and boy, do we ever learn? Oh my gosh I just love that you deal with the physical side of of Like this life transition and the healing field and then I'm on the other side of it In the in I'm in the spirit world like talking to spirits and you're dealing with the people that are here I'd like it's such a good balance. Oh, absolutely But I had this client and another 88 year old woman. She was uh a daughter of a senator

39:14 And she had lymphoma And I got a call to go work on her And uh, you know, it took me a couple sessions. It always does but uh, I really thought I was there to help her live And uh, you know, I I'd even joked with her I about having a gin and tonic with her Yeah, when she's all better, right when she's better and she let me do everything to her I put crystals all over her body again I was just a beginner and I used everything And I got her to do a juice like cleanse and oh She was just quite incredible and it was funny because it's funny perception and and how you connect with people because For me it it took maybe two Two or three times working on her and her husband. They had such a beautiful connection I used to just love the both of them and he would sit beside her and hold her hand the whole time I worked on her And uh, the nurses maybe she was nasty to them But she was sweet to me and every time I would go there I would give her a kiss and a hug and she would almost like shake to To like put her hands up to hug me and stuff and I just thought what one incredible way to learn how to love Somebody who you didn't you just met But after working on her a few times I through asking questions because that's what I do

40:32 Um, I had found out that she hadn't talked to her children for 23 years. Well for me lymphoma Cancer of the blood What's blood family? So in my mind I was like, oh, this is so sad. She's ill We're all gonna something's gonna take us all so You know, I'm not trying to emphasize that You know lymphoma is always the exact same thing for everybody But for her the lymphoma for me was connected to the fact that she hadn't talked to her children 23 years So I said to her I said, well, why and she said well So she told me a story about her son marrying a woman who was catholic and they were United Baptist I guess and she was so upset That he took on his wife's religion and not hers And she didn't talk to him and I was I was baffled. I'm always baffled when these things happen over religion Some people have such strong. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's it's a sin, right?

41:29 But so and then I said, well, what about your daughter and she said, well, she took her brother side And here I am looking at this beautiful woman with her beautiful husband. They lived a beautiful life And it made absolutely no sense to me. And again, I'm a straight shooter. I say what I think I'm very respectful about it. But I said, well, do you really think God Would care what your religion was like wouldn't he just care that you believe in him? And she looked at me and she said like a epiphany, you know that look on her face were oh my gosh I never thought about that and she said well, I guess She said I guess you might be right And it's not about being right. It's about giving people A different perception than they had before. Yeah, you know And her husband just loved me And he loved my realness And so a few more treatments later, you know, I don't even know when but we had another conversation because I said Well, what would you say if you seen them and she right away? She started Well, I'd want to know why and she was getting all like, you know, uh crusty. I'll say I Yeah, and she said I said no, no, no

42:46 I said why I said wouldn't you just be happy to see them? And I said listen if you get to see your children Then just enjoy every moment you have with them. Put this all behind you. This is not important It's important where you're going and I started then to realize that I don't think I was there to help her live I think I was there to help her rest in peace I was there to help her release This in this life. So she didn't have to come back and do this again, you know, and I Like wow, what a realization to have for somebody who's little old me, you know I know, you know what? I I have said this so many times that if we could just figure these things out before we passed Yeah, you know, we wouldn't need mediums But well always need the the communicators and the messengers right connection. Yeah, but but here's the thing is that We think it's so funny because yes in the spirit world they make sense of things They can they have an awareness they can feel good about their family They know there's they might be struggling but they can see that they're going to be okay down the road but If things are left unsaid What can happen is your loved one in spirit will find ways

44:06 To trigger you to send you signs to push you to book a reading with a medium Absolutely And so I often get these messages from people and they're like, I don't know why but you just keep popping in my head Or I've even had messages from people that said I I knew I had to talk to a medium And I just put medium into google and your name popped up And it's like weird like how did that happen? Or I've even had there's a recent story Somebody was on a train in Chicago And they started talking to a passenger and the passenger gave this girl my business card So amazing and how these things happen. I don't even know who the person was on the train But how these things happen so amazing, you know Well, we're so lucky that we get to see We get to see the outcome of what our work can do for somebody and in this situation with this woman She one of the last conversations we had She said to me she said well, I want to ask you something and I said, okay, and she said well I don't know if you know, but I have a lot of money and I said, yeah, I know you have a lot of money And she said well either of my children are in my will And I don't really know what to do and I said, well

45:25 Here's what I'll say You never really die So you're still going to be here observing your children and at the end of the day, it's just money. Yeah And that that hit her so hard and she really valued my honesty And she did end up leaving the money and she passed on a Sunday and I was booked to go there on a Monday and I had called and Through this I had started actually working on her husband as well because he wanted me to work on him So I would go and work on both of them. So this Monday I got a call from the caregiver And she told me what happened, but I already knew she passed because I felt her the day she passed I felt I felt it. Yeah when I was home and She's I said, well, I suppose I shouldn't come tomorrow then and she said, oh, no, you better come He wants to see you. He's looking forward to it And when I got to their home the first thing that I felt was just complete calm and love Yeah, it was like you would never expect that Not in my not before that experience. I wouldn't have expected that And you know, I worked on her husband and when I was done I was carrying my massage table life to the car and this guy was running down the driveway that a really long driveway

46:42 And he was running waving his hand in the air and it was her son And one of the things I forgot to say is when I had said to her, what would you say if you talked to your kids? I did after that treatment say to the caregiver, do you know where her kids are? Because you need to get a hold of them and they need to come and and have their goodbyes type thing And it was a I think it was a few months That they got to have time with her but he's running at me and he looks at me and he said hi He says, um, you know so-and-so That was my mom and he said my sister and I just want to say thank you. We don't really understand Um what you do, but we can't we can't not say thank you because we've got enclosure with our mom And we got to spend time with her. I have goosebumps right now. Um, and I left there glowing I think I could have lit up my car all the way home been my own headlights because I thought Wow because I trusted my gift because I trusted my journey and my path and my purpose I I was I've been given all these incredible Experiences that taught me how to believe even more than I believe before that Yeah, and that's it's so amazing

47:58 That if you Can remain open that you get to have these experiences that you get to have this learning And then not only that think about what that did for that family Like it just heal it healed and closed a big hole that was there And that's that's what I see a lot of the time You know people think they're booking readings for themselves But really their loved one in spirit has been urging them to do it And when they book There's this great release of energy A beautiful release that happens because Spirit gets to say all the things that they didn't get to say before they passed And the person getting the reading gets to release everything they were hanging on to And it closes It closes wounds It heals people in a way that you can't you can't get that healing any way else And the the loved one in spirit wouldn't have had the awareness before they passed to be able to do this Not every person has a Kim in their life when they're dying That is or a Laura that is picking up on all these things that can help a family. So

49:16 You know the What we do You know Kim's on the physical side of things and I am in the spirit world But what we're really doing is we're allowing people to release Long-held emotions and experiences and trauma that they don't need anymore and don't even realize they have some Yeah, it doesn't serve them. It's heavy. You know, you don't you don't need that and the in spirit They don't experience emotion the same way we do. They can't release it. It's not like they can call you on the phone and say I'm so sorry You know for doing that they can't they they have it's like stuck It's like almost like stuck energy. So when when people have readings, they think it's for them But it's usually for the person on the other side in spirit That cannot express that energy any other way And really like I I feel like what we're doing um it's nothing Urshattering it's really like It's to us. It's our every day. So it to us. It's not even really like special It's just we have a drive and a passion To do what we came here to do and And it's all of the messages. It's all of the

50:34 You know, it always takes me off guard even buying this house. We we bought this house December 8th 2022 and we had been looking for a long time and You know, it always just takes one house, you know one thing and sometimes it's a trauma sometimes In our situation the fellow that owned the house passed away in the driveway. He had a massive stroke And in spirit, he kept hanging around. I kept seeing him walking down into your your office and then You know, I'd see him here. I'd see him there. I could tell you what he was wearing And even sometimes we'd be talking to your oldest child and We would hear the steps cracking and when we started to talk about him, he would stop He was walking around here like, you know, he was still living here and we're all seeing him like pretty much, but then I'm so grateful that I can communicate that way and I don't always it doesn't happen every single day for me but I was outside working and we were getting ready to have our new septic put in and We had had some problems with the water and different things and I was out cleaning the the shed out and it it looked like people looked like a I don't want to say that because it's a terrible thing to say but it was

51:49 Honestly, the shed was so dilapidated like it was a few dead things in there There was some some animals that we think me had gotten in like years before like and they were just like, yeah disintegrating It was like really scary in there like a haunted house. Yeah, it was it was quite something but the thing is is that I we were getting ready and we were talking about tearing it down and There was this board on the ground as I was sweeping and and shoveling The debris out of there and it was that one about footprints in the sand And I looked at it and the second I looked at it. I could feel him communicating through it and he said You're getting rid of every sign of me. He said I love this shed. This was like my place So I looked around snapped a few pictures sent them to my son and I thought well You know, maybe we should keep this, you know And we ended up keeping it and then he further talked to me about The water problem we had and he said we dealt with his sister and her husband and her husband was A property manager guy. So he knew what he was talking about But it's kind of ironic and I love people's personality even after they pass but he said They're making enough money off me. He said he didn't like what was happening. He didn't like that

53:06 We didn't know we were gonna have to spend 12 000 in a new water system So he literally spoke up and said I'm gonna help you get some money back And so I had to take it to my wife and say listen I know you don't like complaining and you don't want to do this But I really feel like we should go back to them and try to get some money back And you were like, yeah, okay. I because we had the water water's pretty important. Yeah, exactly But we knew and so we did and the lawyer literally said do you want more and we were like, no We wanted you know, we got what we needed to be fair and and we knew part of the responsibility was on us too So we were okay with it But the point is that How incredible is it that you can talk to spirit and spirit can give you these kinds of messages That can help you in that way because I don't know about you But I think that is like so incredible. But like what a story and it makes the house even feel more Like like home to me because everything lined up the way it needed to well And I really felt like we felt like from the moment we were here that he loved his house Oh, absolutely He just he couldn't do he was here by himself He couldn't do all the things he needed to do to look after it So when we moved in and we started fixing things and repairing things making things look nice

54:25 I felt him happy. He was happy. Yeah, I felt him really happy about that So it felt like a little bit of closure maybe for him to Absolutely after having a hard life of maybe feeling like he had to do everything by himself Or he was alone, you know to see the house that he loved, you know That we were here Putting love into the house and making it look so much better. I think I think it gave him some peace, you know Absolutely and What we don't understand is sometimes in the physical the human part of us is suffering with You know, I think he suffered with Depression and and a few other things and he was lonely and stuff And he had always want I feel like he really always wanted to do a lot of what we did Yeah, and so it kind of like put it kind of like Put like everything in a place of love a peace and compassion. It was like setting something right Yeah, I was going to say it corrupted something for him and it's and we feel it every day here We feel this beautiful light coming from the property and Um, I mean, I know that even the first day we came in here and and looked at it And went home. We both had a message from different Spirit beings to tell us that this was our house. So I love this work. I I could do it

55:46 All the time it's never it never feels hard for me and because you're in the flow of conscious, you know Universal consciousness. I feel like it's not a heavy weight on you some there's there's some things that are heavy I I know for you when you have to work on somebody who's You know, who's past tragically then that's not as easy, you know Um, but this really is truly a beautiful work to be in and I love that we're doing this podcast And I love that we're opening people's minds to believing In a way that maybe they didn't have the space to believe before Yeah, and that's what this is about. That's what this is all about the this actual idea of death If we could remove the fear and we could have some education around what happens I just feel like All of us would be much better off It would it would actually clear the path for us living the life that we want to live Absolutely and and knowing too that you know It's just so important to have a larger awareness of your life and how you affect people and how you know death We we know like we know you never die. Mm-hmm, but at the same time

57:08 If you're on the other side, you can't just call up your loved one and say I'm sorry so to know that It's really important that you say and do the things that you need to do while you're here. Absolutely. Yeah Well, thank you for listening. We'll be back next week with another episode